<p>I am in need of info from you wise experienced people... I understand a Congressman or Senator can only have 5 Midshipmen at the USNA at any one time... so therefore it is possible that they could have no openings some years if they have filled their quota?? Also, I was looking at Johnny Isakson's website (Senator from GA) and see that he appointed 7 for class of 2009 to USNA. Hence the confusion. Also.. when you have 2 Senators and 1 Congressman for an area, is there a chance there may be no openings in that area if they already have their quota? HELP I am confused... It seems like this could block out some great candidates. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.</p>
<p>Have no fear,
Dad2b'2010 will be here! - or someone else who can answer your question fully.</p>
<p>I would say do not worry. I would think that most congressmen would leave an opening for someone every year--that's what mine does. Out of your two senators and your representative, there's bound to be an opening.</p>
<p>Yes, a MOC may only have 5 Midshipman at the Academy each year. Most Congressman only fill the number of free spots per year, but knowing that at least one will need to be opened for the next year...that way they always have a minimum of 1 nomination (however, if a Mid drops, then it might be 2).</p>
<p>Yes, it is possible to have no MOC nomination, but you still can get appointed.</p>
<p>He cannot appoint 7 (in fact, they don't do the appointing), but can nominate up to 10 (for which USNA chooses who gets the nomination). Furthermore, it might be all the candidates that got appointments from his area (i.e. they had other nominations).</p>
<p>There are always slots open between all MOC's in your nominating area (i.e. Senator and Congressman). I have never heard of a Congressman and/or Senator of not having at least 1.</p>
<p>Also, I assume you're just getting in to the application process. Here is the name of a book that is VERY helpful to have along the journey:</p>
<p>The Naval Academy Candidate Handbook: How to Prepare, How to Get In, How to Survive</p>
<p>Amazon has it. I consider it a must buy. Good Luck!</p>
<p>We are in a very competitive are for the USNA Spot here in Atlanta so thought I would ask. </p>
<p>OK.. Not sure if I understand. How can one get appointed without a MOC nomination? Also.. when the USNA recruits Football players (For example) do these people go through the same process or are they possibly appointed in a different process.</p>
<p>Swillz yes.. my daughter is a Jr and will be attending NASS in June. So I am new to this. We just bought that book from Amazon although the most recent copy seems to be 1997.</p>
<p>Each MOC may nominate up to 10 candidates for each slot. In years when they have two slots, they may nominate 20, 10 for each slot. </p>
<p>From here it gets tricky.
Nominees may be ranked, unranked, or one nominee designated as "principal", with remaining nominees unranked.
The academy then selects the candidate for appointment. If the "principal" is qualified, then the appointment is granted to him/her. If not, then the academy proceeds in order through the nominees until a qualified candidate is reached, and then an appointment is offered. If all candidates are unranked, then the most qualified is selected by the academy for appointment.</p>
<p>Candidates with Letters of Assurance (LOA) are not counted against a MOC's allotment of constituents in attendance, but must still have an nomination.</p>
<p>There are other sources for nominations besides MOC, including Presidential, Vice-Presidential, Secretary of the Navy, and Superintendent.</p>
<p>CM</p>
<p>Candidatemom! THANK YOU! </p>
<p>WOW! I am starting to understand I think.. and of course Lola just got home from school and is trying to explain it as well. A WHOLE LOT OF KNOWLEDGE Goes behind this process :).</p>
<p>What exactly does MOC stand for?</p>
<p>You can still get appointment, if you are not selected for your MOC's appointee, as long as your name is one of the 10 on the submission list. </p>
<p>Think about the numbers...assuming that 2 nominations are available per Congressman</p>
<p>200 (Senaer) + 870 (House) = 1070 + other sources != 1225 total</p>
<p>Furthermore, there are a select few of MOC's who have 2 spots...you see where I am going?</p>
<p>The Academy "finds" nominations (i.e. makes them up), for qualified candidates that did not receive their MOC's/VP/Pres/SECNAV nomination. </p>
<p>So you still can get an appointment if you did not get selected for your MOC's nomination, but as long as you made the selectee list.</p>
<p>Football recruitees go through a different process. One of my good friends was interested to play in the academies, and USAFA, during a visit to the campus handed him the leather-bound appointment;he declined. USNA offered him an appointment, which he also declined, but he said that " they worked hard to get him it, and that even if he refused, that it would till be open for him." Which sort of sucks for other candidates........</p>
<p>zero-</p>
<p>"What exactly does MOC stand for?"</p>
<p>Member
Of
Congress</p>
<p>Football players and other recruited athletes may get some special deals from the Academy, but they still need to complete the entire admissions process including obtaining a nomination. A nomination is the legal go-ahead for a candidate to receive an appointment. Football players are not so special that they can skip right over the nomination process. Just wanted to clear that up.</p>
<p>This is all very enlightening for us that are new to this! :) THANKS!</p>
<p>fiterace,
I know that everyone needs the nomination, but I know for a fact he wouldn't have gone through MOC/Senators/VP/Presidential....leaving the Sec. Navy, but they had an APPOINTMENT not a LOA for him...and this was like 1 month before my MOC Board Interview....so I don't know.....</p>
<p>Zero,
Wow, that is interesting. They must have arranged a special nomination source for him or something. I guess the following applies here: if the Academy wants you bad enough they will invent a nomination for you, more or less. This seems kind of fishy, though...</p>
<p>10 nominations per appointment slot
There are alternate ways in for special circumstances. The academies can use alternate routes and legal loopholes if they want a person bad enough.(Counting on these is usually a very bad idea.)</p>
<p>A little late this year but, remember that if you are involved with JROTC your senior naval science instructor can also give nominations.</p>
<p>Ok so there's 10 nominations per slot. Are all 10 of those people competing against each other for that one appointment since only one of them can get it? So if I get a nomination along with nine absolutely geniuses with 100% perfect records, I won't get that appointment?</p>
<p>Not sure if I'm understanding correctly...</p>
<p>This is a thread with alot of the same people asking the same questions you have on this subject...see if it helps, young man...</p>
<p>Gotcha...thank you!</p>