<p>how many SAT II's does JHU need, for premed or biomedical engineering and which ones do u guys suggest i take.</p>
<p>I think that they reccommend you send in 3, but none are required.</p>
<p>I have 2 right now -_-</p>
<p>Pre-med isn't a major.</p>
<p>From <a href="http://apply.jhu.edu/apply/testreqs.html%5B/url%5D">http://apply.jhu.edu/apply/testreqs.html</a>
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For those submitting SAT scores, Hopkins recommends submitting SAT Subject Test scores, and if submitted, requests results from three tests. Applicants should select Subject Tests that demonstrate their mastery of a specific area of study or convey their academic interests.
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<p>I would recomend you take whatever tests you think you can do best on. JHU doesn't require a math test but most other colleges do so you should take take one. Some colleges require a science so I would recomend that one.</p>
<p>it says "for those sending in the SAT." does that mean they don't need them if you send in the ACT?</p>
<p>Is the policy that they want 0 or 3? So if you're submitting 2 they ask that you don't submit? It says they recommend submitting them and if you are submitting them, then submit 3. Wouldn't it be of at least some benefit if a student submitted 2? Anyway aren't all the scores sent together anyway?</p>
<p>id just submit what I have...try to take 3 just in case other colleges require it</p>
<p>take Math IIC, a science, and a language/history</p>
<p>Official statement:
<a href="http://apply.jhu.edu/apply/testreqs.html%5B/url%5D">http://apply.jhu.edu/apply/testreqs.html</a>
"For those submitting SAT scores, Hopkins recommends submitting SAT Subject Test scores, and if submitted, requests results from three tests. Applicants should select Subject Tests that demonstrate their mastery of a specific area of study or convey their academic interests. Applicants interested in an engineering major should submit scores from the Mathematics Level 2 exam and at least one science exam."</p>
<p>Interpretation and Additional info:
(1) It is each applicant's decision whether they want to take and submit SAT II subject exams.
(2) You may submit 0,1,2,3,4,5,.... SAT II scores. We recommend 3 but it is your choice how many (if any) you want to send.
(3) Most students last year submitted 2 or 3 exams.<br>
(4) If you are interested in engineering, YOU REALLY SHOULD take at least Math IIC and a science.
(5) Students submitting the ACT can submit SAT II scores but it is not required (obviously) and the recommendation doesn't stand either.</p>
<p>I'm sorry this is probably really annoying, but I just wanted to clarify the last point.</p>
<p>If you submit the ACT, then you are NOT recommended to submit SAT II's, even if you are planning on studying engineering?</p>
<p>I think basically they're saying send any scores you want that will portray you in a positive light. If it helps the AdCom to get to know you better, I would think they would want it</p>
<p>can someone tell me how JHU views the satii math level 1 for a biology or more soft-science major?</p>
<p>alyssieann - YES. (but read what noday42 wrote)</p>
<p>noday42 - very well stated!!!</p>
<p>SineWave - we view it as one of the 3 recommended SAT II exams that you chose to submit. There is no special recommendation, outside of the engineering one mentioned above. Therefore if you are interested in a science major, choose whatever exams you want.</p>
<p>"Applicants should select Subject Tests that demonstrate their mastery of a specific area of study or convey their academic interests."</p>
<p>This makes me kind of feel bad. My school has no AP classes so it would be very hard for me to take SAT II's. I have taken the SAT. </p>
<p>For some reason, the search button is not working so I'll post the question here:</p>
<p>Comparison:</p>
<p>applicant 1- takes the hardest classes, dual enrollement (senior year) because his high school didn't have AP's or honors, took the SAT I, everything else is the same(ec's, rank, gpa...)</p>
<p>applicant 2- takes the hardest classes including various AP's (so he didn't took dual enrollement), took the SAT I, SAT 2, </p>
<p>Do they have a equal chance of getting in? In other words, how do you view those applicants?</p>
<p>Almost everybody who take ap classes or honors take the sat 2's because they are well prepared. This is a major disadvantage to the people whose high schools offered no such thing.</p>
<p>Kumar, you raise a good question and one that is often asked in a lot of different contexts. Nothing to feel bad about, and this is one of the main reasons that SAT IIs are not required anymore.</p>
<p>Each and every applicant to Johns Hopkins has a different background, different academic opportunities, different academic upbringing. Some students go to huge public schools, some to small private schools, some to international schools, some are home-schooled. We get this and we absolutely factor all this in when we review applicants.</p>
<p>There is no way for all applicants to be reviewed the same, therefore the individual, holistic, comprehensive approach to application review that I have spoken about before. Everyone has an equal chance of getting in.</p>
<p>The best way to answer your question is that "applicant 1" and "applicant 2" are not compared against each other. Each has a different "story" to tell, and each will be reviewed independent of the other. Just put your best application together, challenge yourself, and understand that we know there are differences in academic opportunity for students and this most be something that is considered.</p>
<p>Thanks a lot for answering the question. I always thought top university always wanted the best applicants and they didn't care about which high school you came from. What a relief.</p>
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I'm confused about the number of SAT subject tests JHU would like to see. The instructions for the online appication at <a href="https://jhu.applicationsonline.com/index.cfm?APP=AppOnline&ACT=Display&DSP=Instructions%5B/url%5D">https://jhu.applicationsonline.com/index.cfm?APP=AppOnline&ACT=Display&DSP=Instructions</a> state that, "We prefer the new SAT I OR the ACT with Writing Test, but for students graduating in 2006, we will still accept scores from the old SAT I and three SAT II Subject Tests (one of which must be writing). </p>
<p>This appears to not be in total agreement with <a href="http://apply.jhu.edu/apply/testreqs.html%5B/url%5D">http://apply.jhu.edu/apply/testreqs.html</a> which says. "Hopkins recommends submitting SAT Subject Test scores, and if submitted, requests results from three tests."</p>
<p>If I am reading this correctly the first quotation seems to say that subject tests are not necessary if one takes the new SAT I with writing, which appears to contradict the direction defined in the second quoate.</p>
<p>I have taken the new SAT I and two subject tests. My school counselor advised that since the new SAT I includes writing, it has in fact replaced the writing subject test that many schools used to look for as one of the three scores submitted.</p>
<p>Can someone clarify what JHU is expecting?</p>
<p>Thanks very much!
Larry</p>
<p>SAT is required
SAT II's are recommended</p>
<p>Larry,</p>
<p>Sorry for that confusion. It seems the Instructions page of the JHU Online application have not been updated for the new admissions cycle. I have contacted my colleagues and hopefully the updates will posted soon.</p>
<p>For now, do not refer to the JHU Online application instructions page for details about standardized test scores. The correct information is found here:
<a href="http://apply.jhu.edu/apply/testreqs.html%5B/url%5D">http://apply.jhu.edu/apply/testreqs.html</a></p>
<p>SAT Reasoning of ACT with Writing is REQUIRED
3 SAT Subject exams are recommended</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
<p>I am sorry, I have been reading about this particular subject for several weeks now and am still a bit confused. </p>
<p>OK, my son who will be looking at JHU has taken the SAT I and two SAT IIs. As of now he has not scheduled to take a third SAT II, and, honestly at this point I think he is wiser to spend his time looking at schools, working on his applications, and studying for his senior year classes. According to your liturature, the SAT IIs are not required at JHU, however if you DO take them, it is suggested that you take 3??!! Does that mean that he needs to take a 3rd SAT II to submit any of the scores?? Or, if he has not scheduled to take a third test, should he submit none of his SAT II scores? Although everything else in your application process seems very clear, it seems to me that you are being a bit ambiguous about this issue.</p>
<p>Any clarification would be appreciated, Thanks!</p>
<p>In the page before, AdmissionDaniel just stated</p>
<p>(2) You may submit 0,1,2,3,4,5,.... SAT II scores. We recommend 3 but it is your choice how many (if any) you want to send.
(3) Most students last year submitted 2 or 3 exams. </p>
<p>So your son is fine.</p>
<p>Thanks, AdmissionsDaniel!</p>
<p>Rereading the entire thread, is it fair to summarize the answer as, "Take however many SAT subject tests give the adcom the best picture. If taking a third will enhance that picture, then take it. If it adds little (or may detract) then don't, Fair enough?</p>
<p>Thanks!
Larry</p>
<p>P.S. I have a theory that one's gut reaction after 10 seconds in the admissions office is an excellent predictor of a college's attitude toward students, its culture and personality. Based on this JHU won hands down. Spending the rest of the day on a tour, listening to the admissions presentation and just walking around, confirmed the 10-second theory and filled in the details. We fell in love!</p>