<p>I filled out the fafsa about 5 weeks ago and I was wondering how it worked on how much they give for summer and fall. Do they let you know how much they are going to give you in the award letter for summer & fall? Is fall less also? I have received financial aid for the Spring when I filed in December of last year and they only showed for Spring which was the Pell grant. If anyone can help out I would really appreciate it.</p>
<p>If you’ll be attending the same school you’re at now over the summer and next fall, why not just give the FA office a call? There’s just not enough info here for anyone to reasonably guess! The summer and fall semesters are obviously part of the 09/10 aid year, whereas spring was covered by the 08/09. That’s all that I can deduce from the info given.</p>
<p>If you received a Pell grant and are wondering if it will continue for the summer and fall, the answer is that it will be based on the EFC from your current FAFSA filing as well as the number of credit hours you’re taking. There’s a chart here:
<a href=“http://www.ifap.ed.gov/dpcletters/attachments/P0901PaymentSchedules1D.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ifap.ed.gov/dpcletters/attachments/P0901PaymentSchedules1D.pdf</a></p>
<p>Okay I was full-time taking 12 units last semester. For the summer I have 5 Units that I’m taking which makes it full-time because it’s only a 6 week course. When I received financial aid 2 months ago, I got the pell grant for $2365. If all of my information has stayed the same and I have an efc of 0 still. Can ou guys help me out with that. All I want to know is, if you receive less aid in the summer than the fall.</p>
<p>You need to check the following with your school</p>
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<li><p>Do you have to put a separate application in to them (them the school rather than FAFSA) to be considered for summer aid. At both the school my daughter goes to and the one I go to you have to fill out an additional form at the school to be considered for for summer aid.</p></li>
<li><p>How many hours are required to be considered for summer aid. At the 2 schools above a minimum 6 hours enrollment is required for any summer aid.</p></li>
<li><p>Is summer considered part of the previous year (2008-2009) or the next year (2009-2010). Schools can choose to do it either way. If your school considers it part of the previous year you should still have Pell eligibility (if you are eligible hours wise) from 2008-2009 as you only attended for one semester, and it will not affect your next years aid. If they consider it part of the next year (2009-2010) it *may *reduce the amount of aid you will get in the fall and spring semesters. There are some new rules coming into affect next year for Summer Pell awards but I am not sure how they work.</p></li>
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<p>How summer Pell was explained to me is: If you still have Pell eligibility (i.e. have not used your full award for the year which students enrolled the previous fall and spring would have) the Pell is awarded on a *sliding *scale based on the hours you are enrolled in. To get the full Pell award you must be taking 12 hours (even in the summer). So if your EFC is 0 you get $2365. If you take 9-11 hours you get 3/4 of the Pell - $1774. If you take 6-8 hours you get 1/2 the Pell - $1182. Below 6 hours you do not get any Pell.</p>
<p>Based on the hours you are enrolled I would say you will receive less Pell if you can actually receive any at all. You need to talk to your school about this as only they can accurately answer your questions. As I said - Summer aid is often a separate additional application through the school and is not included in your normal annual award. You need to find out what you must do to apply and also whether you meet the minimum hours required to make you eligible to apply.</p>
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<p>If, by "units you mean credit hours, then I think it’s unlikely you’ll receive a Pell grant for summer. If you follow the link that I gave you above, you’ll see that Pell is determined on an EFC/COA/Credit hour basis. I don’t believe five credit hours would not be the 1/2 time equivalent since qualification for full time is a minimum of 12 credit hours. Half time is generally 6 credit hours. Please look at the chart on the link…awards for less than half time begin on page 7. You’ll see that you need a 0 EFC and a COA for summer of at least $1,000 to receive the minimum award of $600. </p>
<p>As swimcatsmom said, Pell is an ANNUAL grant of $5,350 for 09/10, so if your school considers Summer 09 to be part of the 09/10 award year (which, as SCM said, is something you need to check with the school on) and by chance you did receive the same Pell grant for summer as you will next fall, you will have completely exhausted your annual award for 09/10 and will receive nothing next spring. I haven’t seen proposed rule changes but if they go into effect next year, my guess is that they’d apply to 10/11 award years?</p>
<p>Hope this helps clarify…good luck!</p>
<p>Pell actually changes for 09-10 in such a way that a student can receive Pell all year 'round (thus the new “Year-round Pell” name). I can’t remember the exact regs on this, though, so can’t tell you exactly how it works. There is something about the final payment (after the first 100%) that hinges on enrollment … but I’ll have to post that when I am at work & have the powerpoint on hand.</p>
<p>For this summer, your school may or may not already be doing year-round Pell (we chose not to - not ready for it on the technical side). It may or may not be a summer header … or a summer footer. What I DO know is that if you got 50% of your Pell last term & no other Pell payment in the 2008-09 award year, you may receive UP TO 50% in the summer. However, if you are only taking 5 credits, you will only receive a payment of $591 (12 or more credits is 100% of semester award, 9-11 is 75%, 6-8 is 50%, and 3-5 is 25%). You will not be eligible for summer loans even if you still have annual eligibility remaining, because you must be at least half time … which most likely is still 6 credits.</p>
<p>On my the proof of enrollment paper it says full time for summer with only 5 units taken since its only a 6 week class. It also says full time for spring with 12 units taken. My counselor wanted me to take 1 unit course because the only class I had was english 100 and that is only 4 units, so the extra unit will make it full time she told me.</p>
<p>At my school 6 hours is considered full time for the summer. I am taking 6 hours which is enough for me to be eligible for Stafford loans but only enough to get half the full Pell semester amount ($1182). I would have had to take 12 hours to get the 2365. Whatever your school may consider to be full time the amount of Pell is based on federal rules which I believe is, as Kelsmom says, is 12 hours for full time, 9-11 for 3/4 time, 6-8 for half time, <6 is less than half time.</p>
<p>Ask your financial aid officer for clarification. Counselors are not necessarily financial aid experts. kelsmom, by the way, *is *a financial aid officer in real life.</p>
<p>As this is obviously an important issue (I know my decision on whether to take summer classes depended on whether I could get summer financial aid) it is *really *important that you talk to your financial aid office so you know where you stand. Did you check whether you had to do a separate application?</p>
<p>If the OP is only taking one course, it is unlikely he/she will be considered “full time” for the summer. It really doesn’t matter HOW LONG the course duration is. The reality is that one course is not full time (unless the person is also taking one course for the next 6 weeks…making that a total of two courses and enough hours to be considered full time). For example, DD last summer took a course the first term of summer school. It was a three week term and only one course is allowed for that three week term. She was “full time” for that TERM but would NOT have been full time for the full summer term which was actually 3 terms of three week duration. As it happened, she DID take a course each of the three terms for a total of 12 credits (4 per term…they were lab courses). She was considered full time.</p>
<p>BUT her school does not award institutional financial aid for summer study…and she does not receive need based aid. She did have work study both last year and this year. Even so, her summer work (same job) was NOT paid for with work study funds (and she had NOT used all the funds from last year…and won’t this year either).</p>
<p>My daughter’s school does not offer WS for the summer. Shame as she is staying there this summer and doing a couple of classes and is finding it very hard to find any sort of job, on or off campus. She has never had any problem getting a job before so not just getting the first job she applies for has been a learning experience for her.</p>