<p>Here’s something really interesting. I guess I say that about everything, but I’ve never seen this stuff before. It’s a white paper by Northwestern. It was in-house but some people found out and agitated to have it released to public. Seems it would have had some great data, but the group they are part of, COFHE, forbids them to release data of that sort, so it’s all stripped out of report. Seems they’re having interesting times there trying to deal with lack of diversity at all levels. After I saw this started browsing news reports.
<a href=“http://www.northwestern.edu/strategic-plan/Docs/Diversity.Inclusion.WhitePaper.pdf[/url]”>http://www.northwestern.edu/strategic-plan/Docs/Diversity.Inclusion.WhitePaper.pdf</a></p>
<p>@ T26E4 I’m not your , “friend” …no matter, you talk of numbers, fine. NA are “coveted” as you say…in the name of sensitivity, please look up the usage of the word “covet” it applies to a thing, a possession, not to people, unless you’re quoting the Bible. Anyway if so, why are NA not more actively recruited than Hispanics and African Americans , in order to be consistent with the goal of achieving this elusive " diversity" ? bTW, recent NY Times article, there are a number of affluent NA, because of casinos, which must impact native american HS grad rates, why not look at them ? There are two issues here, NA have fallen off the Radar of college admissions, as they have , unfortunately, been forgotten in this country.Secondly, the fact that there are only 2% vs 8% for hispanics in the top colleges points out a major flaw in the tip top colleges policy. It’s not true colleges want to have diversity. They do need good publicity , though, for alumni fund drives,and good publicity does not include the Native American population.</p>
<p>GoBlueJays, this discussion has been about facts–you seem to have yours a bit mixed up, though. Selective colleges try very hard to recruit URMs–including Native Americans–who can do the work and succeed. The sad fact is that they can’t find enough URM applicants with strong stats to recruit as many as they’d like to have. There is only a tiny handful of URMs with strong enough stats to gain admission to the most selective schools without a diversity boost. Of course, there simply aren’t that many Native Americans compared to other URM groups.</p>
<p>Some data from 2007 from JBHE that says about 1700 African Americans scored 28 or above on ACT
[JBHE:</a> Latest News for 8/30/07](<a href=“http://www.jbhe.com/latest/index083007_p.html]JBHE:”>JBHE: Latest News for 8/30/07)</p>
<p>And some data from 2008</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.jbhe.com/latest/index090408.html[/url]”>http://www.jbhe.com/latest/index090408.html</a></p>
<p>Wish they provided more information about this pyramid. >.></p>
<p>I’m gonna be a bad person and revive this thread because I don’t like the way it closes for someone who may view it a year or two from now. </p>
<p>@BlueJays The problem with attempting to have more Native Americans exclusively is that we’re already vastly overrepresented in the college world. The Census Bureau reports about a 1.2% Native American population in America (don’ quote me; that’s off the top of my head) and I know for a fact that many top universities beyond the state level have more than double this population. If you’re looking only at schools like CalTech, Berkley, and MIT then you may get more skewed numbers than those that actually pursue diversity like Stanford, Harvard, Dartmouth, and Cornell. The point here is that affirmative action usually tries to represent specific populations in relevance to all of 'Merica’s population, and that usually balances out when some schools overvalue certain students (or perhaps even when students overvalue certain schools) and when others undervalue those students. I will agree that beyond private schools and LACs you may tend to see discrepancy toward URMs in general, but that’s reserved for another thread.</p>