How much does not applying for financial aid change admissions chances?

<p>i didnt apply for aid, and it didnt work that well..lol..so tsh1226 if you have solid stats, you gonna be good even with applying for aid...</p>

<p>UPenn - Reach
Johns Hopkins - IN
Case Western - IN
Wash. U. in St. Louis - IN</p>

<p>JHU is NOT need-blind.</p>

<p>I would suggest checking out International</a> Student Exchange & Study Abroad Resource Center if you're applying as an international student.</p>

<p>Indeed... there are only 7 schools need-blind to international students. Applying for financial aid in any of the other schools will affect your chances, but naturally, this depends per student and how much aid you are applying for. </p>

<p>It may be a good idea to contact individual colleges if the information isn't already on their homepage... Each college is different!</p>

<p>1500 is average.
You are great above average.</p>

<p>I did not unterstand what you said, If I check no financial aid, after I get in university, I can aks to change to Aid, Is it right?</p>

<p>Actually i was having some correspondence with the admission staff of CARLETON via the mail and they told me international students face a sitff competiton for limited budget while there 's somewhat of unlimited budget for US residents.</p>

<p>SO it looks like if you are an international student i does make a lt of difference</p>

<p>i heard that international applicants immediately get put in a separate pile. if you're applying for fin aid, then you get sorted into another pile. thus even if a college is "need-blind" it will still be "need-aware".</p>

<p>^That is absolutely wrong for need-blind schools. Though I agree this is what happens when you apply to need aware schools you get sorted into a separate, most competitive pile: "internationals applying for financial aid". But at need blind schools, the distinction is not made and I know a guy who worked in the admissions committee of MIT.</p>

<p>There are only about 6 schools in the US that are need blind for international students. MIT and Princeton are two of them. Most schools that are need-blind for US citizens are not need blind for internationals. Read their websites very carefully.</p>

<p>Also, remember that applying for aid is not the determining factor. Need aware schools look at how much aid you will need. A student applying for aid, but who has no need as calculated by the school, is no different than a student who doesn't apply for aid.</p>

<p>Applying/not applying for financial aid has no real effect on your admission chances, at least at any respectable school. Apply if you need it; otherwise, don't.</p>

<p>Listen guys there are only 8 need blind schools in the US. Period. No more, no less (as of now) I am CERTAIN about this:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
MIT
Williams
Amherst
Dartmouth
Middlebury</p>

<p>What is your source of information?</p>

<p>^ the websites of all the colleges! Well I ran a search to site a source and i came up with wikkipedia (which i admit might not be the most credible). However, you can look at the references from there:
Need-blind</a> admission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p>

<p>I recall that in this thread, the original poster was an international student, so policies related to international students are at issue here, but there are certainly other colleges in the United States that are need-blind and full-need-met for domestic students. Thanks for clarifying what your (secondary) source was.</p>

<p>Would they consider international students who have completed their entire high school career in the US and are applying for aid differently than other international applicants? Like how much of a chance would I realistically have if I have decent stats in a non need blind school like Stanford?
Brief summary of stats
SAT-2400, SAT II - 2390, 4.0 gpa, 1/580, 3 time usabo semifinalist, couple of leadership positions, community service, unique fish breeding ecs.</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>Usually the definition of "international" relates to citizenship or permanent residency status, because federal funding for student aid is restricted to citizens and permanent residents.</p>

<p>worst bad boy the answer to your first question is no; they would not consider you any differently than any other international. However, I must congratulate you on the credentials you have listed. They are very impressive, but the information you provide us is too little to chance you. Moreover, there are so many other things that go into applications which we cant see like essays and teacher recommendation, so it is hard to make a judgement even if you provided us with all your credentials. On the subject of aid, applying to "need-aware" schools and not asking for aid can be a big boost for internationals. So if you dont apply for aid to Stanford, I would think you would have a good chance.</p>

<p>Hmm,I thought about it too!And now I decide not to apply for FA.I'm an international student by the way.Anyone knows what financial forms/documents are needed (if any) during application for an internation if he/she does not apply for FA?</p>

<p>hey there initial c...you dont need to show any documents. you show them once they accept you as a student, and for some schools they require documents before, but they will let you know. but i would like to give you some adivce- i applied without financial aid to all schools, and the chances don't change that much for TOP schools. so unless you have off the charts scores, then not applying with aid won't matter.
I applied to all the schools that i mentioned in my first post without aid, and was not admitted to hopkins and penn, and i scored 31 on my acts, and 2050 on my sats. Those scores, as I realized, is not top-school calibre. But, think about deciding whether you want to apply with aid or without aid.
Good Luck!!!</p>