<p>I run track and do sprints. Right now Im a sophomore and I run the 100 and 200m my time for the 100 is 12.4 and my time for the 200 is 25. Are these times good enough to get spotted by an Ivy League and if not what kind of times do I need? Please be descriptive and detailed to be chosen as best answer</p>
<p>To get noticed you need to run the 100 in 10.0 or less.</p>
<p>To get recruited you need to go to the websites of the various schools and fill out their recruit form with all the pertinent information (grades, SAT scores, times, etc.). Make further contact with the coaches directly via email if you want.</p>
<p>Further, most schools have summer track programs where they evaluate recruits. Go to one or more of these during the summer so that you can get direct, personal contact with coaches.</p>
<p>You are on the right track – the key to admissions to the Ivies and Stanford is athletics, not academics.</p>
<p>Boy, I really disagree with that last statement. The key to admissions to the Ivies and Stanford is to have both top athletics and top academics.</p>
<p>Hopefully you are a girl in which case you dont need to be under 10.0 but you will need to be under 11.9. For the 200M you should be below 24.5. You are close. The coaches of those schools will be interested in how you rank for your class year and event (Milespilt, Athletic.net, TFRRS) and a slight improvement in both events will get you on the national elite lists. They typically only show times from invitational meets so make sure your HS team or club attends a few to get your marks posted. Once you get some posted marks (if you dont have any already) e-mail them with your info to get on their radar screen. </p>
<p>And rather than school specific summer camps, if you can qualify and your club or school supports travel, try to attend national level meets that all the recruiting coaches like to attend; NB Nationals (Indoor & Outdoor), Penn Relays, Texas Relays, Great Southwest, Chandler Rotary, Arcadia, JO Nationals and USATF Junior Nationals. If you are a sophomore, they cant talk to you yet but trust me they will notice you are there. The Stanford coach is always at Arcadia checking up on somebody (at least for the last three years ) and just about everyone was at the NB Outdoor Nationals.</p>
<p>Im a boy actually</p>
<p>Unfortunately, your times are not close to ivy league or any D1 times</p>
<p>Ontrack gives a good description of the level of athlete performance needed for the Ivy league and Stanford. To be recruited by these schools you should have national championship qualifying times.</p>
<p>Academics for Ivy league recruitment is based on the academic index (AI) which is calculated from both unweighted GPA and test scores. The team must meet a certain average AI ( Ivy league average is about 210) and the athlete must meet a minimum floor AI (176). If you assume an unweighted GPA of 3.8-4.0 then the average SAT and SAT II scores for the team should be above 650 and the minimum SAT score for an individual athlete should be above 500.</p>
<p>Stanford’s minimum academic requirements for athletes are way below ivy minimum academic requirements - at least for the “major” sports.</p>
<p>Stemit
I am curious as how you knew that Stanford’s academic requirement is lower than the Ivy’s. in S’s sport, there have been multiple cases where the national top recruits were rejected by S but picked up by H&P. I would assume the comparable scales are used by S’s helmet sports vs. HP’s helmet sports.</p>
<p>stemit, that is not true in our experience either.</p>
<p>Personal knowledge of football and baseball players recruited from our area. Note, I said major sports. The sailor I know recruited by Stanford had stats equal to the general Stanford population.</p>
<p>When compared to other PAC-12 schools Stanford has higher standards; when compared to HYP, it has lower standards. I also know of kids who verbaled in baseball whose offers were withdrawn due to grades/test scores not reaching the “required” level.</p>
<p>^^sorry to disagree with you as others have…from my personal knowledge of applicants who have been admitted to S, H, Y, P over the past 20 plus years…and looking at the statistics on CC of those who “chose” to publish their “statistics” which I often take with a grain of salt…Stanford accepts only the best TOP TOP athletes who can compete on a national/international level in “ALL” sports not just crew or water polo…like its “academic” competitors…and at the same time these athletes have similar ACADEMIC credentials as those who are accepted to its counterparts…</p>
<p>…let’s be honest…usually, when it comes to best “athletic” recruits the east coast schools get the left-overs from Stanford…like Jeremy Lin who really wanted to go to Stanford (he is from Palo Alto) but ended up at Harvard…</p>
<p>…and, let’s not pretend…the academic index for athletes recruited for basketball and football in particular for ALL four schools are lower than the other “sports”…it’s the nature of the beast…and that’s without going into “political correctness”…</p>
<p>…we are all cognizant of the significant SOCIOECONOMIC differences between those students who pursue basketball/football versus those who pursue crew/water-polo…all you have to do is look at the high schools attended/towns published for each of the schools discussed under their SPORTS TEAM WEBSITES…</p>
<p>THIS IS JUST NOT TRUE…</p>
<p>Post #2 -
“You are on the right track – the key to admissions to the Ivies and Stanford is athletics, not academics.”</p>
<p>Any kids reading this, well that statement is false.
Academics matter to the Ivys in a BIG WAY.</p>
<p>I think what the poster meant was –
The recruits are first evaluated by their athletic performance, assuming they have the academic stats. The coaches are looking for the next athletic star who can get in, not the academic stars who can kind of contribute.</p>
<p>I can’t tell you how many of D’s team members were down to a final choice as recruits between H and S, and chose S. And the two superstar kids on the team that she knows have lower SAT’s (closer to 1900 as opposed to everyone else with 2200+) were also recruited by H. And let me also say, that one of them is struggling really badly, and the other is majoring in the fluffiest major S has and has a pedestrian GPA. You simply can’t hack S without the necessary brain power, football player or not.</p>
<p>5amriser: I think you’re right that the poster may have meant that athletics come first, but that’s a misleading comment as worded because it’s also true that coaches at those schools ask quickly about grades and test scores because they know that they will have a very limited number of likely letter slots for athletes with significantly lower than average academics. As GFG points out, the great majority of the team will have both the academics and the athletics.</p>