<p>Ah, I just checked up the demographics for my high school. I guess Caucasians comprised of 77% of the school, Latinos 9%, Asians 10%, African Americans 3%, and Native Americans 1%.</p>
<p>But yeah, I guess my state isn't politically correct either. It has grouped Phillippinos and Pacific Islanders under "Asian."</p>
<p>Lol. My high school demographics is: 33% hispanic, 33% asian (a majority of them vietnamese), 7% caucasian and the rest others.</p>
<p>I think it was extreme, but so is grouping all "white" people together.</p>
<p>Ah, true. I've always though that Phillippinos and Pacific Islanders were Asian though, but that could be because I'm a product of an un-PC state. </p>
<p>Anyway, when I first came to Berkeley, I did have somewhat of a culture shock. Hence from a Caucasian, hick atmosphere where everyone is in the NRA to a more metrosexual, not-so-Caucasian and somewhat more cosmopolitan atmosphere.</p>
<p>I would rather not sort people by race or ethnicity, but for programs that do, it seems strange to put many or all of these in the same category (just to mention a few):</p>
<p>Koreans, Vietnamese boat people, children of American math professors from India, great-great-grandchildren of Chinese-American railroad workers, et cetera.</p>
<p>Daderoo,</p>
<p>Unfortunately, no matter how much we want to be PC, people still seem to care quite a bit about ethnicity.</p>
<p>Funny, I thought the PC types were the ones who pushed URM preferences but didn't know how to do it right.</p>
<p>How does one "do it right?"</p>
<p>I was trying to suggest that some "Asians", such as Vietnamese boat people might be considered URMs even if rich 5th generation Chinese are not. And, maybe the kid of two black MDs is not in the same category as a ghetto kid.</p>
<p>vad som helst...</p>
<p>I come long way from Norhern Europe where bears eat humans..:)</p>
<p>any student-athletes?</p>
<p>I don't think vietnamese boat people are considered URM's because there are so many of them (2 million + viets in the US) and lots are very harsh on their children to make good grades.</p>
<p>How many Hispanics are treated as URMs? Since when is it a sin to value education?</p>
<p>I don't think anyone determines URM status based on number in the US, but on number historically at colleges or currently at colleges.</p>
<p>Right. How many Vietnamese boat people and their children historically attend US colleges?</p>
<p>I wouldn't know.</p>
<p>Sorry, to elaborate, I have the general feeling that to determine if a minority is "disadvantaged" people look at their representaiton in top schools versus their proportion in the population. That being said, the proportion of vietnamese people in top schools seems to be more or like reflective of their overall proportion in the general population. Being very familiar with Vietnamese people, I don't think being Viet helped anyone I knew get into a top school. Maybe drab is right, but it doesnt seem like there's any affirmative action for vietnamese people going on now either way.</p>
<p>Rather than AA based on race, there should either be no AA or there should be income-based AA.</p>
<p>Income based AA would help a lot of rural white people get into good schools at the expense of poor urban black people. That would **** off the NAACP and they run 1/5th of the Democratic party. So no go.</p>
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Income based AA would help a lot of rural white people get into good schools at the expense of poor urban black people. That would **** off the NAACP and they run 1/5th of the Democratic party. So no go.
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<p>I don't think that's very true. I think that rural students applying to top colleges nowadays are, in general quite, well-off (and white.) By contrasts, there are many (mostly) hispanic (and poor) minorities in rural areas, but its very tough to see very many of them applying to elite schools. If they did however, they would still get the edge over the white and (usually) richer rural applicant with the help of AA.</p>
<p>Godwin's Law:</p>
<p>As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.</p>
<p>Schwartz's (New) Addendum:</p>
<p>As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of it being about evolution, abortion, or Affirmative Action approaches 1.</p>