<p>My son just received a letter from Hutton stating he would be receiving a $1000/year scholarship. Apparently the scholarships range from $1000-6000/year. He was pretty disappointed as he has very good credentials. Can anyone tell me how the amount is determined?</p>
<p>No idea, but I do know the selection process is very quirky. For example, I didn’t receive a reward from the HHC scholarship, but I was honored with another scholarship about 10 times as selective. Either way, if your son got this scholarship (and lives in state), then I’m sure he has the automatic tuition scholarship. Overall, IUB is extraordinarily generous.</p>
<p>Good luck with your decisions!</p>
<p>Actually we’re from Ohio. He got the automatic $9,000/yr but the out of state price tag is $40,000. We’re hoping the SSA will come through but I’m not so sure. Thanks for your input!</p>
<p>I also received the minimum amount from Hutton. I have a feeling that they take external factors into consideration; applicants probably aren’t given money based solely on their qualifications. I have a feeling that the main external factor is scholarship already received and perhaps even financial need (?). For example, I have full tuition paid (Excellence), the Presidential Scholarship, and Hutton, so I’m pretty well compensated. The amount of scholarship from both the Presidential as well as Hutton is the minimum (3k, 1k, respectively). This pays plenty, and to give me much more money would be overkill; there are, no doubt, students who deserve/need that money more than I do.
However, it is quite likely that my theory is wrong, so take it lightly… lol</p>
<p>That would make sense, redzerb. Congrats on your Presidential scholarship!</p>
<p>Yea I don’t really know how it works either. I filled out my ssa in November. I was rejected from the Kelley Scholarship, the Cox Scholarship, and I did not receive a Presidential Scholarship. However, I ended up with a 3k per year scholarship from Huttons. I think that each area has different criteria that they look at that may weigh one way or another. Don’t give up hope though either because there are still private scholarships that donors and alumni give to students too so you may qualify for some of those.</p>
<p>I just looked over the list of the SSA scholarships and you either have to be instate or in a specific field. My S is going into music performance. So can we expect no more than the $1000 Hutton and the automatic IU $9000 scholarship if he is out-of-state? I thought the SSA covered a broader range of scholarships but that’s not what I’m seeing online.</p>
<p>here is some of the information of the Jacob School of Music Financial Aid and Tuition page, I am sure if you do some searching yourself you will find much more information than I did in about the one minute it took me to find this information. You can always send an email to the scholarship office with your questions - they are always, always, ALWAYS willing to help!</p>
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<p>A lot of students fill out the ssa, probably easily one thousand each entering class-- everybody who meets the minimum requirements to get into Hutton (750 a year matriculate to Bloomington as HHC students, but probably hundreds more get accepted to HHC but don’t even wind up going to IU, but they do fill out the ssa), probably some urm’s with stats a bit lower who are seeking Hudson Holland, and some who indicate schools like Journalism that don’t require real big stats for scholarships. That number is more than fifteen percent of the potential entering class, so they can’t give everyone who does an ssa huge scholarships. Getting the one thousand from Hutton is actually just about all but the very top students who are candidates for Wells, Cox, Kelley Scholars, etc. can hope for from filling out an SSA, especially if they are out of state. I would not expect much more than the automatic nine thousand and the one thousand from Hutton, unless there are scholarships in the school of music that your student is in the running for. IU is pretty generous toward OOS students with the automatic scholarships for a public university, but any more than that for OOS students is not the norm except for those in the running for the really prestigious scholarships. The highest automatic scholarship is sweet for OOS students, but that and maybe a token one thousand from Hutton seems to be all the huge majority will get, unless they are URM, in which case the Hudson Holland program is worth about five thousand per year to roughly two hundred students in each entering class.</p>
<p>Thanks for all the info. I guess we’ll just sit tight and see what comes through. My S was nominated by Admissions for the Wells and we just thought that would help with the HHC scholarship. Hopefully through Jacobs he will receive additional merit aid. IU is one of his top choices.</p>
<p>There are Hutton Honors scholarships that are much more than 1k a year though. I believe 5k was the high end. So what kind of situation would warrant HHC giving that much money to a student as opposed to the minimum or even 3k?</p>
<p>That is what we’re trying to figure out. Unfortunately, the selection process has so many variables that we can only speculate.</p>
<p>D is a sophomore in HHC. She received a scholarship from Hutton that was on the lower end of the scale. We were under the impression that the essays were very important in determining who received the Hutton scholarships. Initially, she was disappointed she didn’t receive more but then found out only about a third of the honors college members receved a scholarship from Hutton. Late in the spring, departmental scholarships were awarded so that was a nice surprise.</p>
<p>Thanks for your insight hoosiermom. If my S was instate it wouldn’t be such a big deal. The automatic and HHC is nice but that still leaves quite a chunk since the tuition is double. My S has received a couple of other offers from OOS schools that are much more generous but IU is his first choice. It’s good to know that departmental awards could follow.</p>
<p>Sometimes I have heard of Students who are interested in the school, but have other choices that will give them more money talking to admissions or scholarship office saying they really want to go to the school, but the other schools are giving them x amount more. I don’t know if it has ever been done with state schools, but I know with private it has. It may be worth a shot if you can do it with state schools.</p>
<p>My S had already decided that he’ll go the route of a phone call. I know I’m biased but IU will lose a great kid because right now the merit aid isn’t even close compared to other schools. I would think that the OOS tuition would discourage many from choosing IU. I’ve always said things happen for a reason and it will all work out in the end.</p>
<p>I know this isn’t any consolation, but many state schools are not as generous to OOS students as IU. I know IL certainly isn’t. </p>
<p>I can’t remember the exact figures (and don’t have the time right now to search them out) but I seem to remember that the in state/out of state ratio is around 65:35, which is pretty high.</p>
<p>Most of the out of state kids that come to IU are pretty well off. They pay all or a huge part of the cost to attend. It is like that for the huge majority of students attending public schools in other states, unless the state or area the student is from has a reciprocal tuition agreement with the other out of state school, and IUB does not have those types of agreements. </p>
<p>The automatic scholarships do not put much of a dent in out of state tuition. They are aimed at Illinois kids, for the most part, as their state flagship is very difficult to get into as well as very expensive for Illinois students, with the 2010-11 cost of attendance for IN-STATE business students being $31,800 at the University of Illinois. IU’s cost of attendance for out of state is $39,950; the nine thousand dollar automatic scholarship makes IU out of state slightly less expensive than Illinois in-state tuition at UIUC, and that is enough to attract huge numbers of Illinois students to pay OOS student rate to IU. IU does not have to offer more than the automatic scholarship to get large numbers of high paying OOS students to come to Bloomington. Their OOS students are overwhelming from affluent suburban Chicago, with significant but much smaller numbers from the New York metro. IU is not like many small private schools that give out huge merit awards. The token one to three or four thousand dollar Hutton merit scholarships probably have very little effect on OOS students decision to attend IU.</p>
<p>scokithom you also have to remember that since your son is going into a music major there is going to be a lot of competition for scholarships since Jacob School of Music is one of the top ten music programs in the nation. The school ranks up with schools such as Julliard, so scholarship money from that school is going to be a bit more difficult to come by. I had the same issue with Kelley scholarships. I applied for their scholars program and was rejected and I even had a senior at IU who has that scholarship tell me I was the perfect fit for that scholarship - sometimes they just don’t see in paper what they get in person. I mean I had a 32 ACT, a 4.5776 w gpa and 4.2 unw gpa, sal of my class, two varsity sports, dance team captain, and a ton of extracurricular, and IB and AP classes; and I didn’t get as much as what I thought I would get scholarship wise, but it is what it is and you just have to be grateful for what you do get and sometimes you just have to go somewhere else - you can always transfer too because most freshman don’t get admissions into Jacobs right away. Also apply to other scholarships outside of schools.</p>
<p>I recently received a letter in the mail stating that I had been named a Cox Research Scholar. The following day, I received another letter from IU stating that I did not receive any HHC scholarships. I am completely gracious for the Cox, but am just as confused about the selection process as everyone else!</p>