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Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>here's the stats (oh, btw im at work right now):</p>

<p>Senior in fall</p>

<p>SATI: 2200 (800M, 710V, 690W)
SATII: still have to take bio, chem, math IIc (aiming for 750+)
APs: Junior Year: Bio- 4 Chem- 4 Calc AB - 4 Calc BC - 3 (I know im sad, but i didnt study for any of them)
Rank: 1/~300
GPA: weighted 4.971 (unweighted: idk, i have all A's)</p>

<p>I'll take the hard course load and what not next year</p>

<p>ECs:</p>

<p>Class Officer (9,10,11,12)
Student Council Rep (9,10,11,12)
Science Olympiad (9) - disbanded the team :-(
Project Support (11,12)
Key Club (11,12)
Tennis (JV 9,10) (V 11,12)
Academic Challenge Secratary (Varsity 11,12)
NHS Member (11,12)
NAHS Member (11,12)
2 Scholastic Art Show Honorable Mention (11)
Ronald McDonald House Chairman (11,12)
Volunteered at festival of the arts at local hospital</p>

<p>Summer Internship program at the number 1 heart center for 11 years in a row...Cleveland Clinic (which is insanely sweet since im in the cardiology dept. and will do a lot im sure for recs)</p>

<p>Im sure im missing some stuff for ECs so assume I have a couple of other things in addition</p>

<p>I'd like to go to Wash. U Stl, JHU, Northwestern, UPenn, NYU, UChicago, Stanford, Cornell, Columbia (all major reaches)</p>

<p>Obviously I'm def. premed or bme</p>

<p>so gimme a holler and tell me what you think. no one ever responds to me so it would be nice to have at least a couple of pages of responses.</p>

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<p>Your list isn't all that top-heavy. I think you have a decent shot at NU, WUSTL, NYU and UChicago (if you pay attention to the essay). The others are certainly worth applying to. Add Case as a safety (since you are looking at biomed anyway) and you will have your list assuming the money situation is ok.</p>

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<p>If you have straight As, your unweighted GPA is 4.0.</p>

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<p>thanks for the input ohio_mom. anyone else gonna comment? no one ever does...</p>

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<p>I would definitely say a major reach...I was waitlisted for JHU, Colombia (white male) with a 1580 SAT (800 V, 780 M) and a plethora of extra curriculars including 4 years varsity tennis, NHS, and many of the academic clubs you mentioned. AP scores are weak but I don't think that matters much; I would say you should maybe shoot for a lower tier of schools...</p>

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<p>I also forgot to mention my friend got into Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Northwestern, and many other top schools w/ SAT 1220 (don't know breakdown) and decent grades, but was a top swimmer for our school (state level). If you excel at tennis that would dramatically improve your chances at getting in. Also, if you have any excellent swimmers or athletes at your schools applying to those top schools, it may ruin your chances as top schools prefer undergrads from a variety of different areas (usually don't accept 2 from the same school unless you attend an awesome prep school)...hope that helps...</p>

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<p>so you're telling me I should apply to a lower tier of schools for what reason?</p>

<p>I guess I don't understand how being valedictorian of my class, getting a 2200 on the sat, etc. doesn't qualify me as a person who could apply to schools in the top 20...</p>

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<p>Maybe I didn't make myself clear CashM,</p>

<p>You can apply to the top schools, but be sure to apply to a lower tier of schools as well in case your not accepted to the schools in the top 20...many people have similar credentials as you, and what the top colleges are really looking for are ppl who stand out from the rest of the applicants.</p>

<p>Also, how would you describe your tennis ability...if your state level that would dramatically improve your chances, even if you don't plan to play in college</p>

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<p>yeah you are very right in saying that. unfortunately, im not state material for tennis.</p>

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<p>i have to agree with yakattack on this one. without any standout activities or talents you're going to have a tough time getting into a top 20 school unless you have some stellar scores. being first in your class definately helps but those 4's and 3's on your AP tests don't, it only shows some serious grade inflation at your school. your SAT is by no means bad but a few of those schools you're applying to are big on the numbers, especially Wash. U. of St. Louis, and that 690 writing may hurt you a bit (although im not sure how much theyll be weighing it since it is the new SAT's first year). im assuming your a minority because of your math score being so much better than verbal so that shuold help you out. add a few more matches to your list, like emory or case western, both are good for medicine.</p>

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<p>It looks like you have a decent chance at these schools, especially at WUStL, NYU, UC. Schools like Penn, Stanford, and Columbia are hard for anyone to get into unless you’re some sort of underrepresented minority with great grades. hahaZ, Japanese doesn’t count. Cornell, JHU, etc, are in the middle. I don't see the aps hurting you at all... though i can say that competition can hurt you... it kept my friend with at 1560 and 3.9 uw out of her first choice schools because someone else got in.</p>

<p>You do art and science? hahaZ...nice. Write good essays. Though your scores are by no means bad (I got 650V hahaZ), a good essay can help offset what you perceive to be your weakness with writing or English.</p>

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<p>If you are premed/BME, you should apply to Duke too; its similar to the programs you are already applying too (your list is similar to mine - I applied to WashU Cornell and Columbia as well, liked Columbia the best of the three on days-on-campus)</p>

<p>Cornell doesn't have a BME program that I heard of, but it has biomolecular science with chemical engineering, which seems similar</p>

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<p>I think you definitely need some match and safety schools. Your stats are okay for most of those schools, but there's nothing that makes you stand out against the rest of the applicant pool.</p>

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<p>Interning at the Cleveland Clinic is unusual and will stand out - and worth an additional recommendation letter. If not mentioned in the essay, it can be referenced in one of those additional information short responses. I agree that the OP needs a likely admit school or two, be I think that if the application is carefully crafted he'll (she'll ?) be in at a preferred school.</p>

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<p>study hard for the SAT IIs, you'll need good scores on those</p>

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<p>haha yeah im a male from pakistan (which explains the math). i didnt do too well on the aps' bc i was an idiot and didnt study for them. but i hear sat IIs matter more so im gonna study a lot for those. yeah the clinic thing is in its inaugural year and i was in the plain dealer paper. so hopefully that will help.</p>

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<p>plain dealer...Cleveland?</p>

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<p>which part of the paper were you in?</p>

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<p>yeah Plain Dealer Cleveland. i live in westlake. where are you from yak?</p>

<p>the add for the internship was a whole page (A11) on a thursday about three weeks ago. </p>

<p>on another note, my sister goes to emory and tells me that washu, emory, and vanderbilt are like the same schools only at different locations. how accurate is that statement?</p>

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<p>also, guys that wasnt my full list of schools i was going to apply to. here it is:</p>

<p>UMich (safety)
OSU (safety)
Case Western (safety)
UPENN (no. 1 choice def)
Northwestern (reach)
WashU in St. Louis (no. 1 realistic choice)
Duke (major reach)
Columbia (major reach)
Harvard (major reach)
Yale (major reach)
Stanford (major reach)
Emory (match)
JHU (reach)
GW (match)</p>

<p>after talking with my counselor, I removed some of the schools that both of us felt wouldn't be a good match.</p>

<p>also, in our school communicator, it gives all the schools the previous grade's students were admitted into. some of the goods ones were UChicago, Emory, Vanderbilt, JHU, Dartmouth, Cornell, Case, and UMich. the year before, we had students go to Harvard, Cornell, JHU, Brown, and a couple of others. hopefully the fact that those colleges look at our school for admittees will help me.</p>