I confess: I dropped out of college. Would you say I am lazy, stupid or a loser?

[CrimeNPunishment]

<p>You’re not the only “malcontent” out there. I’m with the community college idea. Try to do something with you’re life. If not for you then for the people who love you. I was parent-less at 17 and I very nearly dropped out of college, but the idea of dissapointing them by my actions was pretty horrible to think about. After I left my university I came to my senses and I’m taking courses at a community college now. Just TRY to do something.</p>

[Jahaba]

<p>Watching the movie visioneers might also help.</p>

[pvardc]

<p>

@CrimeNPunishment

You’re not the only “malcontent” out there. I’m with the community college idea.

</p>

<p>An interesting idea, but I already wrote off college. Why am I going to waste my time at a community college? Do you think I dropped out of college because it was difficult?</p>

<p>

Try to do something with you’re life.

</p>

<p>What’s the difference between being a lowly paid, disposable white collar worker and a blue collar worker? Do you think the white collar worker made something out of his life? They both failed.</p>

[XX55XX]

<p>This man is a lost cause; ditch him. Millions more will take his place.</p>

<p>By the way, OP, what are you doing now, exactly?</p>

<p>Edit: I believe that the fact you posted this topic is proof that you still care, in some way. Interesting.</p>

[Jahaba]

<p>

What’s the difference between being a lowly paid, disposable white collar worker and a blue collar worker? Do you think the white collar worker made something out of his life? They both failed.

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<p>You could start your own business. You could become some kind of nomad or traveler, especially if you’re not someone who is really attached to luxury things like cable TV to be happy. I’d suggest more but you should really watch Visioneers. It really is brilliant, all kidding aside. If you’ve wrote off college as an option, there are still so many others that giving up is extremely premature.</p>

[sherigmom]

<p>Antidepressants, exercise and fresh air would be my antidote. If you hate the whole college experience, I really don’t understand why you’re not posting on a rat-race hating forum somewhere else instead of here. Obviously the majority of people here have found some semblance of meaning in their lives and don’t have a lot of time for self-serving rants.</p>

[pvardc]

<p>“By the way, OP, what are you doing now, exactly?”</p>

<p>Everything I used to do before I dropped out of college with the exception of going to class and memorizing answers the night before exams.</p>

[legendofmax]

<p>I actually kinda like the fact that the universe has no inherent, objective meaning. It basically gives me free reign to make my own, which is arguably pretty tight. </p>

<p>Anyways wwwwttf@this thread</p>

[boysx3]

<p>max,
it’s old friend pmvd who has no life and has no desire to have a life…which answers you question at the bottom of #48</p>

[InquisitiveOne]

<p>Hey pvardc, I really like and respect you. Please PM me if you want to talk. Alternatively, I’m in a mailing list and I’d really appreciate it if you can join it so that we can understand you better. maybe you’d fit in there better. Thanks!</p>

[psych_2]

<p>

I thought starting a new life might be my best choice, so I whistled for a cab, and when it came near, the license plate said “fresh” and it had dice in the mirror.

</p>

<p>Fresh Prince of Bel-Air reference?</p>

[proton]

<p>

Seriously, does anyone have any real advice on how I can just drop out of society and the rat race? Its not healthy for me. And keeping a malcontent like me among society can’t be good for society either. For my own good and society’s I just need to be isolated from my “fellow” humans. they will only harm me, and I will only harm them. Thats what the Lutheran Kierkegaard thinks the Catholics got right and the Protestants are missing. The monasteries were a safety valve that allowed people antagonistic to this world, to escape it without disrupting the system. We really don’t have that in our age, other than the “choice” to starve on the street, which is where I’m headed. There really is no safety valve or escape hatch. I don’t know maybe there are some deserted islands out there in the Pacific, where I could literally be a Robinson Crusoe. Probably not realistic though. Well if those islands exists, I suppose its possible I could somehow get there with a few thousand dollars. I probably wouldn’t last long in the wild. But nature is a less cruel enemy than man. Nature will kill me but not enslave me. Or being a hermit somehow, but that takes capital. I just need to get away from it all.</p>

<p>I simply reject all social relations. I never want to see another human again. The very sight and smell of them repulses me. I’ve really lost touch. I just don’t get humans. I used to think I did. But the more I study them, the less I understand them. Or maybe I understand them empirically, I know what they actually do and on an intellectual scientific level I can understand their motivations partially. But I can’t get inside their heads. Their endless cruelty just escapes me. I mean I guess part of it is the Hegelian recognition, the master must enslave to be recognized. And Nieztche elaborated on it as the will to power. And you can try and make it scientific by just transmitting the Will to Gene. The human fascination and lust for cruelty just escapes me. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe that is what you need to survive, and I’m just a Darwinian miscarriage. Or maybe I have too much of Freud’s superego. I’ve internalized too much of what society SAYS is good and become that. In that sense I am the society I hate so much- personified. I’m the materialization of the spiritual imagination of society. Call me the Feurbachian God made flesh. I can understand the mind of God, which is the spirtitualization of society, more clearly than that of man. The regret at what man could have been and what he actually is before the flood. I suppose the God’s eye view of the universe, is a curse and burden to us worm, dust, dirt.</p>

<p>I belong in solitary confinement. The prison population of course is the embodiment and hyperdistortion of man’s will to power, although I would say the difference with the general population is only quantitative in nature. So obviously prison itself is no utopia. But solitary confinement in the “hole” would be my paradise. To be free from all human contact and all activity. To just sit in an empty cell 24 hours a day. And to have guards slide in the food. It has come to the point where my only conception of freedom is liberty from humanity. And so freedom becomes a prison cell. I guess at the rate I’m going I will probably end up in an insane asulym believing I’m Napoleon Bonaparte. As long as I make the leap of faith and truly believe I’m the Emperor, then nothing can imprison me. The insane asulym is in its own way a utopia, and it beats the streets. It is kind of like Plato’s Republic. With the Golden Guardians. Maybe I will memorize Napoleon’s memoirs and not let anyone convince me that I’m not Bonaparte. What could be a better life than living in Plato’s Republic convinced you are the Emperor.</p>

<p>Again there is no reason to challenge the empirical world. And what the biggest ape says is “truth” is truth. All I can do is in Kierkegaard’s way ask where is the role of the concrete individual in this grand scheme? The values of this society are not ones that contribute to a fulfilling life. They subject me to far more torment, than nature would. It maybe that society alone is what keeps me alive. That I’m simply not physically adapted to the Robinson Crusoe life. In fact I have no doubt that short of a Garden of Eden, a Crusoe life for me would be short, nasty and brutish. But what pain would I know? Hunger, thirst, disease, injury. And yet no wild lion, no virus, no storm may enslave me, dominate me, impose hierarchy. In this the Crusoe life is absolute freedom. And to the extent that I enjoy that life in my self-made prison of 4-walls, I’m free. Humans are biological, and biology is a pretty dark thing if Matt Ridley is right. For my part if escape and isolation is the best I can hope for, so be it. It can’t last long, it must lead to my destruction. My parents can support me for a while, and I feel that burden is upon them for forcing me into an unchosen birth and life. But I have no illusions that that can last indefinitely. Perhaps an insane asylum. All my basic needs would be met without work, a prison cell is not much different than where I’m now. And a combination of bad behavior and a retreat into delusion, could perhaps secure me a great degree of isolation.</p>

<p>I think for my personality relative isolation would be far worse than total isolation. I’m a spiteful resentful person who can not bear having my social betters above me. I’m in a period of relative isolation now having dropped of school and not seeking a job. Just living off my money which should last .5 to 1 year. I was friendly and jovial with my housemates at first, but now I try to avoid seeing them. The thing about my need for social isolation, is it stems more from existential metaphysics than anything personal. So I’m basically getting a taste of what living on a fixed income would be like now. And the USA has one of the worst welfare states in the world, we love the struggle to the death.</p>

<p>I’m thinking of committing myself, but not being cured. In a way it is utopian. Like Plato’s Republic being watched over by authoritarian all-powerful guardians who are trying to fix you. There is complete equality among inmates, all your needs are met without work, and no private property. The trade of security for freedom. But that is the nature of utopia, nearly all since Plato’s time have acknowledge the need for both the sacrifice of individuality and freedom, and a strong authoritarian bureaucracy. That is the type of power the asylum has over you, their power is institutionalized and bureaucratic like in a utopia. There is the loss of the human element. It is mechanical machine like. But it is precisely the human element of subordination, domination, and power that makes it so humiliating and unbearable. I would prefer to be a patient over an employee. A prison can be a utopia. Bentham’s utopia is designed as the perfect prison system. And of course the mental institution itself is the petproject of a plethora of progressive enlightenment reformers overcoming the dark of superstition with the light of science. It is itself a utopian project.

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<p>i feel the same way as you, at least once in a while.</p>

<p>the only solution to your problem is to win the lottery… somewhere like $100 million dollars. that way you can live in the woods in a very nice house and you will never ever have to leave your house and have contact with another human being again. you could order food or whatever you want and have it delivered to your house. </p>

<p>this is the only possible solution i can think of.</p>

[InquisitiveOne]

<p>seriously though, you could occupy your attention with computer games for the rest of the life. the meaning of life doesnt mean anything when you’re having fun for your life. and really, who cares about making money. Just live with someone (hell, I’d allow you to live with me and I’d pay for you if I could make money myself) tolerant of you and they might pay for your essentials while you live with them. i’ve seriously thought of offering myself as a pet for someone. but i’d pay someone to live with me if they would go in LAN parties with me every day. :p</p>

[linkgx1]

<p>What…did I just read?</p>

[doggie66]

<p>ok you are an idiot get a ****ing job if not for self preservation they get one so you mother won’t cry her self to sleep knowing that she made so many sacrafices so you could have more than you parents did and you are just throwing it away. Your future is not decided by college my dad never went to college and he is a very successful man he is also my hero. YOU ARE WASTEING YOUR LIFE!!! is that really what you want for yourself to be a 40 year old virgin living withhis parents. GET OFF YOU BUTT AND MAKE SOMETHING FOR YOURSELF. its not about conforming to society its about doing something with your life. ok ive been listening to this wuestion allll year maybe you should ask your self it. “what do you want out of life?” i want to have a carreer in art. to achieve this i am going to college so i can learn and make the most out of it. you can’t be a kid forever, your parents aren’t gonna be alive forever you need to learn to take care of yourself and take responsibility for yourself. stop blaming the economy or your parents or asking a college website if you are a loser. My friend has to drop out of high school because he has to get a full time job. he is currently trying to get his G.E.D and is joining the army to pay for school. he is 18 and he is more responsible and more grown up than you are. Take a cue from my friend who had to endure his mother, the only person who truley cared about him, she killed herself last year. if he can go through everything he has had to and still take responsibility for himself and still press on in life then im sure a little free loading lazy idiot like you can at least get a job. stop acting like your 12 and grow up. im 17 years old, me tell you that you need to grow up should tell you something.</p>

[InquisitiveOne]

<p>computer games are the opiate of existential angst. srsly, even the homeless have computers and wifi now; then with uTorrent you can have all the time in the world for computer games ;)</p>

[Caillebotte]

<p>The words “existential” and “angst” get erased from your vocabulary if you have a happy sex life.</p>

[WantsBrown]

<p>What is with CC that keeps attracting people like this?</p>

[InquisitiveOne]

<p>but it’s hard to attract chicks when one has such extreme existential angst :(</p>

[pvardc]

<p>We don’t attract women because we are boring and physically unattractive. It has nothing to do with existentialism.</p>