I DON'T get it

Colleges and Universities A-Z Massachusetts Institute of Technology
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<p>Why isn't Georgia Tech in the CC Top Universities? I thought GT was just as good as MIT, and CMU....</p>

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<p>The top science and engineering schools in the country are Caltech and MIT. No doubt CMU and GT are also excellent, as are Olin College, Harvey Mudd, RIT, RPI, Virginia Tech, and Cal Poly. They can all meet your needs, depending on what you want out of a college. They can all provide you a top-notch education, depending on what you put into it. But the admissions to Caltech and MIT are way more competitive than GT or the others mentioned.</p>

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<p>Rankings: <a href=“MIT Institutional Research”>MIT Institutional Research;

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<p>but like, why is georgia tech not seen just as competitively? they’re number one in industrial engineering. is it because tech is in Georgia or sounds like ITT Tech or devry? i’m just trying to understand</p>

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<p>I don’t understand what you don’t understand. The methodology for the rankings is explained on page 17 of the link that lidusha referenced, and it seems self explanatory. Yes Georgia Tech has one of the top 10 Engineering programs in the United States, it along with competitive schools like Cornell, Purdue, Michigan and Illinois have excellent Engineering programs, and their students usually go on to excel. But in almost every category that feeds into the USNWR rankings, MIT substantially outranks GT, in Faculty Resources, in Peer and Guidance Counselor surveys, in Financial resources and class sizes, and in selectivity.</p>

<p>For better or worse, their statistics are ranked below MIT’s. For example, consider selectivity. For 2010, the 25 percentile/75 percentile SAT scores for the GT entering class are reported as: Critical Reading: 580 / 680
Math: 650 / 750
Writing: 580 / 670 </p>

<p>These are solid scores, particularly in math, but they do not compare with MIT’s. For example, MIT’s math score is reported as 740/800. In both Reading and Writing, MIT’s 25% quartile percentile score is 670. That is to say, a score that will place you in the top quartile of GT’s entering class will place you in the bottom quartile of MIT’s entering class.</p>

<p>You say that there is nothing wrong with GT and I agree with you, but I am not surprised in any way that it is not ranked with MIT or Stanford.</p>

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<p>so tech students aren’t as good as MIT students? if GT wasn’t public and had a lot of georgians do you think it would be seen as a better school to other people?
i was just wondering because someone told me the hardest thing about MIT was getting in</p>

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<p>This is completely the opposite of what is true. </p>

<p>That said, I don’t know how the CC rankings are set. Georgia Tech is a great school. </p>

<p>Rankings are dumb and evil. Don’t pay attention to them.</p>

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<p>Now this is something that you don’t read everyday. MIT’s easy to get in? From what angle?</p>

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<p>No, but what Chris is saying is that once you are in, it doesn’t get easier. After all, why would MIT students embrace IHTFP if it was just an easy ride for 4 years?</p>

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<p>@Decibel</p>

<p>From this angle:
<a href=“http://i.imgur.com/GXUI1.jpg[/url]”>http://i.imgur.com/GXUI1.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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From the angle that you have to work a lot harder to graduate than you did to get in.</p>

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<p>I’ve heard my Harvard friends jokingly say this - but no, not MIT. Basically, what Mollie said - getting into MIT is the easiest part.</p>

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<p>Oh here let me just use my CC keyboard macro: </p>

<p>“What mollie said”</p>

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<p>Oh crap!
How do I get in then ? :mad:</p>

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<p>soooo it’ll be okay not to go to a cc top ranked university? i’m just really being pressured by my parents and they say go to a top engineering school because Georgia Tech sounds too much like a community college</p>

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<p>@ambaturkey11–
Why not apply to a range of schools, including Georgia Tech, and see where you get in? If you apply to some “top engineering schools,” you will apparently please your parents, and you can decide later where you want to go based on the admission results.</p>

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<p>Perhaps you are both right. I would argue getting into MIT and doing well at MIT obviously correlate, because admissions, I’m willing to bet, thinks hard about the process. However, they are also immensely different things. Many elements of doing well at MIT simply have to do with the subject matter, and how seriously it is presented - it’s not going to be watered down in any sense, and you’ll be forced to think hard. I think what is true is that at some schools, students may be considerably less prepared than your average MIT student for their nonetheless very rigorous program. So to some students, the relative shock of academic difficulty at MIT may be lower than what some people encounter when they enter college. </p>

<p>Whereas with MIT, even the brightest people, capable of handling the work and excelling, are most likely not accepted, which means that getting in can seem a giant hurdle, relatively speaking.</p>

<p>And I would think that the academic difficulty of MIT is the major difficulty. If the word going around this forum is true, MIT is probably more careful with fitting its students to its school than many others are, and probably has better resources for its students, whereby the external stress may be lower. The one possible exception is that some have described possibly extreme glorification of the “be as hardcore as you can” mentality, which can turn some people off.</p>