I fear I may not get in ANYWHERE

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The fact that a school asks for a minimum GPA of 3.3 or 3.5 or whatever, and that you have such GPA, is only a qualifying factor. It by no means you will get in or even that you have a good chance. There are numerous other elements in the mix. Including your recs, your hs record, your essays and the believability of what you have included in your applic.

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<p>That's from jmmom. You should probably read some of the responses here.</p>

<p>You should probably stop with the wisecracks.</p>

<p>The answer was in the topic that you made. And not only that, this topic's only 2 pages long. That's just pure laziness.</p>

<p>I can't see why 2 people chose to gang up on MeyerLansky. Cvjn and Cavs019. These sites are to help people figure things out. Don't know what your problem is. DId you never face an uncertain moment and ask for some honest help? IF not, pity you. </p>

<p>Anyway, how could the stats on this CC represent the whole college? If you want that, go onto their median statistics. Even there, you know there are some people admitted above and below the medians. Or are they means? Either way...you can't just look at a GPA and decide on each other whether someone has a chance. You can't see what someone else wrote on an essay; how the recs sound. The EC's sound civic-minded and helpful. In education, we always need more guys to help kids with academics; often make a good bond and role model, too. Lots of young kids lack fathers so their tutor is important to them as an emotional anchor, as well as a lifeline academically.<br>
I would also consider replacing one or two of the high reach schools with some more in the middle-range, or add some with rolling admissions if it's for this coming year. There's a thread, about 3 weeks ago, about colleges that still take in apps even at this date, on CC. Can anyone provide the search word for Meyer Lansky to look that up?
AND, I wouldn't hold back from applying to 11 places. Standard here is applying 6-8, so let's call it 8. You're not applying to "11 places for $600 in fees"; instead consider only the differential. You're applying to 3 more than usual. So that's an extra $150 or so for your process. You have a lot at stake, and if that $150 makes you feel more confident, it's good insurance against a stressful season.
Still, be sure the 11 (or even a few more) are the 11 that include a range.
I grew up in Maryland and honestly, I can't see why Maryland WOULDN"T take you. It's a fine school with a lot going for it. The rest I've only heard of or read about. They look at your ENTIRE APPLICATION, not just the stats published here. So I don't even know how anybody "chances" anybody else, anyways. I'd feel just a bit better if I saw maybe 2 or 3 schools that are around the median-stats like UMaryland, and less like Georgetown and Cornell, but those are your reaches...and everyone should have some reaches as well as the safeties. Just spread it out a bit better.
And good luck to you.</p>

<p>Gang up? The answer was right in the topic. If everyone asked the same question 10 times, this forum would be filled with useless clutter. Not only that, the question that he asked, was answered in the first page of HIS OWN TOPIC. If he can't read put effort to read that, then why should any of us put any effort in trying to help him?</p>

<p>Not only that, he's basically insulted the college admissions process by talking about lying on apps and having someone else write your essays.</p>

<p>paying3 - I don't think anyone's really ganging up - in the context of the OP's various responses (and non-responses to helpful guidance which may not be what he wants to hear) and in the context of other threads he has started re lying about his ECs.</p>

<p>I think those elements have affected the tone of some responders and I understand that. Perhaps your post will help the OP to respond more receptively and abandon some of his notions of "embellishing" his apps. One would hope.</p>

<p>All I was trying to allude to was the fact that ILR really likes to see demonstrated interest in their program. </p>

<p>But your right, I shouldn't have a problem with someone who is applying to many schools that others on this board are applying to, yet posts about paying to have essays written and suggests lying is the best way to be admitted.</p>

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Are you serious? They all told me you have to have a B. I know you have to be way higher, but I'm like an A-, that still won't be very competitive?? I won't waste my money if I don't get seriously considered.

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<p>While I can't speak for all of those colleges, I can specifically refer to WashU, which requests at least a B average from 4-year applicants and a B+ from CC applicants. However, it's quite obvious that the vast majority of CC applicants with sub 3.7 GPAs are not going to be admitted: the listed information is simply the "recommended" GPA, but how will you fare when most people applying to top schools go the extra mile. Why would the school take someone with a 3.6 from a CC when they could get someone from a good 4-year uni with a 3.8+? And trust me, these great GPA applicants are more common than you think, especially for schools like WashU.</p>

<p>There have been threads on the value of a CC GPA. I can tell you, as one CC applicant to another, a 3.6 is decent if you are from a top university - if you are from a CC and wanting to transfer to a top 20, the bare minimum GPA I would recommend is a 3.8. And in all honesty, I think it's a proper approach - things certainly don't get easier at a top school, so if you can barely pull an A average at a CC (your 3.6), it is highly unlikely that you'll be a great student at a top college.</p>

<p>Your answer would be to pick one or preferably more back up schools you'd be really happy at. I didn't do this when I applied as a freshman -- hence the transfer...</p>

<p>Posted by MeyerLansky:</p>

<p>"Furthermore, do professors count? I mean, I go to a 4 yr school but not a good one"</p>

<p>"I am an NY commuity college student"</p>

<p>uhhh which is it?</p>

<p>Busted.</p>

<p>No surprise.</p>

<p>nspeds''"Cornell, WashU, Northwestern, Georgetown, Chicago, and CMU I know will check your credentials (which includes your ECs)."</p>

<p>What do you mean "check"?</p>

<p>"Cornell wants a 3.3-4..."</p>

<p>Did you find this out from the counselor at your current school or from a counselor at Cornell? A GPA that low doesn't seem like it could get anyone into an Ivy League or even into a decent school. After all, the average GPA of undergraduates at most universities is above a 3.0 (at UGA, a typical state u, it's 3.26).</p>

<p>Sweetny07, many CUNY's (City University of New York) are community college however offer 4 year degrees.</p>

<p>^Good to know</p>

<p>I feel the same way! Probably should have applied to more than one school!!</p>