I hate affirmative action

<p>If you take the time to search for quotes, then take the time to read them in context. You'll immediately see that I've been sick for the first 10-11 weeks of this trimester (12 weeks per trimester, if you go to a semester school...). I don't think it's too unreasonable for me to have all F's. By the way, I have 3 A's, a B, and a C by now. Of course, I've also unfortunately been dropped from another class.</p>

<p>When I said "rich kid," I meant that my words might be misinterpreted as coming from a rich kid who doesn't deserve anything, which they do not, because I am not rich (nor are my parents). I guess the word "average" led you to believe that. I didn't notice the ambiguity there...</p>

<p>I said I live in a one story shack.</p>

<p>And colleges haven't had the chance to reject me yet, as I'm a junior in high school and have not applied. I don't know what led you to believe that I was in college or anything like that.</p>

<p>And I believe your approach to debating is called ad hominem or "to the man." You seem to think that by rattling off insults concerning irrelevant issues you are proving my arguments wrong. That is not the case. You are simply making yourself look like an idiot who is unable to think.</p>

<p>Also, I would contend that minority culture is the victim of AA. As I've said before, AA portrays minorities as having no ability to fend for themselves and as innately inferior to white people. Minorities can fend for themselves, but when you act as though they can't, it creates a very negative paradigm.</p>

<p>The creators of AA seem to get their principles from "If You Give a Moose a Muffin." Interpret that however you like, lol.</p>

<p>I think you guys are overanalyzing the purpose of AA.</p>

<p>It's just to guarantee a level playing field for everybody. It's not saying that underrepresented minorities are overall dumber or worse students than whites and Asians, but it does imply the scarce amount of resources available for blacks , hispanics, and native americans as compared to those for whites.</p>

<p>Many schools located in minority-dominated areas tend to be worse than those in more affluent areas due to the lack of books, computers, and other materials. This is due partly to segregation SO LONG AGO <em>sarcasm</em>. It doesn't matter whether you are a rich or a poor black or hispanic, the lack of opportunities has no exceptions. Sure segregation and slavery is nonexistent but prejudices still exist, and they show when qualified minorities can't get a job for some "unknown reason" for example.</p>

<p>If AA wasn't around, there would not be as many minorities attending college. So if you don't want AA to stay, what do you want then? Colleges to be all white and asian?</p>

<p>If asians and whites are more skilled, then yes, colleges should be all white and asian. If you really wanted a level playing field, then you have to take the problem at the root. You have to increase funding to inner city schools and increase education oriented programs. AA doesnt help disadvantaged black people, it helps upper class blacks that just get a one up due to it. I mean honestly, how many people in Ivy schools are from low income families?</p>

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<li><p>No, I want colleges to have people who deserve to be there</p></li>
<li><p>What's wrong with mostly Whites and Asians in colleges if sports are mostly Blacks and Hispanics?</p></li>
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<p>AA rocks my socks</p>

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2. What's wrong with mostly Whites and Asians in colleges if sports are mostly Blacks and Hispanics.

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<p>Diversity enhances the learning environment. Nobody gives a damn about the learning environment on sports teams. But for certain you should care about the learning environment in one of your classroooms!</p>

<p>It's the wrong way to diversify classrooms.</p>

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Diversity enhances the learning environment. Nobody gives a damn about the learning environment on sports teams. But for certain you should care about the learning environment in one of your classroooms!

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<p>Prove it.</p>

<p>Prove what? That diversity enhances the classroom experience? Ok...ummm...how about class discussions, maybe? Amassing different perspectives, looking at things from different points of view? Or wait, do you only discuss things with people who agree with you?</p>

<p>Liberal arts education is filled with white/rich people knowing EXACTLY what the situation looks like for everyone else.</p>

<p>What about the second part: maybe Asians have some valuable "perspectives" on how to "enhance performance" in athletics.</p>

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Prove what? That diversity enhances the classroom experience? Ok...ummm...how about class discussions, maybe? Amassing different perspectives, looking at things from different points of view? Or wait, do you only discuss things with people who agree with you?

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<p>We're talking about diversifying based on race, not on ideology. A class of only white people wouldn't all agree on one thing.</p>

<p>In my AP Govt. course, half the class is divided on issues and all of us are white.</p>

<p>I accept that. But naturally, I was only referring to ideology....suuuure. Races bring in different perspectives too, as demonstrated by both threads on AA. The point of it is, everyone eventually benefits from AA.</p>

<p>Races do bring in different perspectives, but so do those who are poor and those who are rich. Why aren't we working for diversifying the classroom based on income as well?</p>

<p>It's called need-based financial aid? Questbridge? Hope Scholarships? Scholarships in general? Pell Grants? Ever heard of any of these?</p>

<p>A778999...Prove it....Well its sitting right infront of your face. Take this thread you have everyone from white,black, asian, hispanic etc alll offering there own diverse opinion. Everyone is intergrating their cultural belifs into this one topic. I think if there were just asians and whites in this thread there would be much to debate and the same if it was just blacks and hispanics.In a matter of days this thread has over a 150 posts. This is diversity at its finest.</p>

<p>Oh, but it's not always enough. Some of the top tier schools are expensive even with financial aid. A couple of them do offer free tuition to families who make less than around $45,000. What about the family that makes $50,000? Unless I want to be paying debt for most of my life, there is no way I'm going to be able to attend a top tier school.</p>

<p>Amen to that ixjunitxi</p>

<p>Have you been on fastweb at all? There's money out there if you're willing to work to get it. Futhermore, you can get a good education at most any college, it doesn't have to be top tier. Top tier gives you an edge, but it's not the be all and end all of college</p>