<p>Well, theres no point to this thread but I'll continue anyways. I just took the SAT II Spanish test for placement at Duke - the last time I took a spanish course (3rd yr course) was all the way back in junior yr. Even though I pulled a near all nighter studying for it, theres no way to cram that much vocab in one's brain and recall it with accuracy at 8:00 in the morning. Lets just say my SAT II avg. fell by 100 points :(</p>
<p>Well I got a 520 after 4 years of spanish, and it was all fresh in my mind. I'm just gonna take Spanish 63, because I really don't care about it that much. I wouldn't worry about it. I wouldn't worry about your SAT average...lol...we're going to college, and half those people probably don't remember their SAT scores anymore.</p>
<p>what is the placement like</p>
<p>I got a 720</p>
<p>i think that gets you into spanish 101</p>
<p>I probably should have taken the sat 2... now i have to take a placement test next fall (unless I get a 5 on the AP test. HAHAHAHAHAHA)</p>
<p>yeah I think w/ a 720 u've passed the foreign lang requirement but u can continue to take spanish or another language if u want.</p>
<p>I think its once you get up to the 100 level courses or have taken 3 consecutive semesters of a lang, whichever comes 1st, the FL req is fulfilled</p>
<p>well i got the worst score possible... a frikkin 790.... so close yet soooooooooo far. haha
i am fluent in spanish though, so i definetly should have done that well.</p>
<p>... you can't pass out of the FL requirement - you have to take at least one class at duke (as far as i know)</p>
<p>and i think given my school's terrible foreign language department, i'm just going to take a new language for fun, probably japanese since i really like watching naruto ;)</p>
<p>good news everyone... Duke accepts 3, 4, and 5 on the AP spanish language exam. A 3 gets you into span 63, 4 into 76, and 5 into a 100 level course. What a relief, especially since I think I might have gotten a 3 on the AP exam :P</p>
<p>In case anyone is wondering, this is the placement info for spanish next yr at Duke, one of the admissions officers emailed it to me:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.duke.edu/web/spanish/selfplacement.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.duke.edu/web/spanish/selfplacement.htm</a> </p>
<p>Self-placement in Spanish</p>
<p>Your self-placement decision is only tentative and will need to be approved by the instructor, the Assistant Director, or the Director of the Spanish Language Program during the first days of classes. Take both the Course Description and the Student Profile (below) into consideration before making a decision. Students with some prior knowledge of Spanish are strongly recommended to take the SAT II prior to enrolling in your first Spanish class at Duke.</p>
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<p>Course Description: Spanish 001
Elementary Spanish introduces the basic elements of the language. It covers present tense, present perfect, present progressive and the morphology (forms) of the past tenses. It introduces students to Spanish-speaking cultures through readings, audio texts and other authentic materials. Students read 2 stories of about 550 words each.
Student Profile: Spanish 001 </p>
<p>· Students who had fewer than two years of high school Spanish </p>
<p>· Students who had a maximum of three years of high school Spanish and a score of 370 or lower on the SATII</p>
<p>· Students who did not cover beyond the simple present tense in high school, or whose Spanish classes were conducted in English</p>
<p>· Students who did not read any texts in Spanish</p>
<p>· Students who have very little contact with a Spanish-speaking environment (i.e. no family interaction in Spanish)</p>
<p>· Students with more than 3 years of high school Spanish who think they belong in Spanish 01 should contact the Director of the Spanish Language Program. Students might be asked to take an achievement test to determine placement in Spanish 001.</p>
<p>Enrollment in Sp01 is by permission number only. To request a permission number, go to: <a href="http://www.duke.edu/web/spanish/sp1placement.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.duke.edu/web/spanish/sp1placement.htm</a></p>
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<p>Course Description: Spanish 002
Second semester of elementary Spanish continues with the introduction of the basic elements of Spanish. This course builds on the elements of the language acquired in Elementary Spanish 1. It covers the past tenses (preterit and imperfect), past progressive, the future tense, commands and an introduction to the present subjunctive. It also studies the direct and indirect object pronouns and possessive pronouns. It exposes students to Spanish-speaking cultures through readings, audio texts and other authentic materials. Students read 2 stories of about 1000 words each.
Student Profile: Spanish 002</p>
<p>· Students who have successfully completed Spanish 001 or its equivalent at the university level </p>
<p>· Students who have a score of 380-450 on the SATII</p>
<p>· Students who have studied Spanish for at least 2 years in high school and have covered material pertaining to Spanish 001 (see description of Spanish 001)</p>
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<p>Course Description: Spanish 014
Spanish 014 is an intensive course; it covers the basic elementary language curriculum (Spanish 001 and 002) in one semester, targeted to students with none or very little experience in Spanish.</p>
<p>Student Profile: Spanish 014<br>
· Students who have never studied Spanish </p>
<p>· Students who have less than one year of high school Spanish</p>
<p>· Students who have very little contact with a Spanish-speaking environment.</p>
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<p>Course Description: Spanish 063
Spanish 063 is the third semester Spanish course. This course is for students who have successfully completed Spanish 002 or its equivalent. The course includes a complete review of elementary grammar (everything covered in Spanish 001 and 002), past subjunctive, pluperfect tenses, application of reading strategies to progressively longer authentic texts, and regular speaking practice. Reading assignments at end of course are equivalent to a 100-150-page novel (not adapted for classroom use).</p>
<p>Student Profile: Spanish 063</p>
<p>· Students who have successfully completed Spanish 002.</p>
<p>· Students who have a score of 460-580 on the SATII, or a score 3 on the AP exam (language or literature)</p>
<p>· Students who have studied Spanish for at least 2 years in high school and have covered material pertaining to Spanish 002 (see description of Spanish 002)</p>
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<p>Course Description: Spanish 076
Spanish 076 is the fourth semester Spanish course. This course is for students who have successfully completed Spanish 063 or its equivalent. Spanish 076 includes a complete review of basic intermediate level grammar, expansion of pronominal constructions, discourse connectors, and a range of conversational strategies. Emphasis in writing through various writing tasks. Focus on the discussion of a diversity of literary texts and other media (film, news, short essays, cartoons, etc.). Reading assignments at end of course must be equivalent to a 150-200-page novel (not adapted for classroom use).</p>
<p>Student Profile: Spanish 076</p>
<p>· Students who have successfully completed Spanish 063.</p>
<p>· Students who have a score of 590-650 on the SATII, or a score 4 on the AP language exam.</p>
<p>· Students who have studied Spanish for at least 2 years in high school and have covered material pertaining to Spanish 002 (see description of Spanish 063)</p>
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<p>Course Description: 100 level courses </p>
<p>100 level courses correspond to the 5th semester of Spanish and are built on the elements acquired in advanced intermediate Spanish. The Spanish Language Program offers a range of courses at the 100 level; please check ACES for a description of these courses.</p>
<p>Student Profile: 100 level courses
· Students who have successfully completed Spanish 076</p>
<p>· Students who have a score of 660+ on the SATII, or a score 4 on the AP literature exam; or a 5 in the language AP exam</p>
<p>· Students who have studied Spanish for at least 3 years in high school and have covered material pertaining to Spanish 076 (see description of Spanish 076)</p>
<p>· Heritage students or native speakers of Spanish do not qualify to take Spanish 105 (Advanced Oral communication)</p>
<p>wait, isn't there a Duke placement test?</p>
<p>thats what I thought b4 too but I went online to check it out and it seems that all the pages that talk about the placement test given at Duke are a few years old - all the newer links state that u have to take the SAT II for placement and if u dont, u have to take it at a local high school in Durham during Fall in order to enroll in a language course in Spring (only if ur continuing a language of course)</p>
<p>There is a placement test, or at least there was last year. It's offered the very first weekend during orientation, and then a few times throughout the year (before registering for spring classes, right when spring semester begins, and right at the end of spring semester before registering for fall classes). I'm not sure about during orientation, but every other time you have to pay $30 through Flex only, it's 3 hrs long, and you sign a waiver saying that because you're taking the test, you HAVE to take whatever you place into for the upcoming semester.</p>
<p>I thought I'd update, the SAT scores just came in -----> got a 520 in Spanish. Thats pretty decent considering I was aiming for 500+. I know, I know, not exactly CC material :). But whatever, it gets me into SPN63 so its all good.</p>
<p>heh, yeah, on the Duke 2009 board, a 520 spanish SAT II= 800 Spanish SAT II :)</p>
<p>Welcome to the 520 club:) I'll see you in 63...lol.</p>
<p>YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! 520 Club WOOT!</p>
<p>I'm not taking 63 until 2nd semester though b/c of FOCUS</p>
<p>Hopefully I'll be taking 63 second semester... we'll see if I was lucky enough to get a 3 on the AP test... :)</p>
<p>wow a 3 on the AP = only 63??? It seems like it would be a lot harder to get a 3 on AP Spanish then to get a 460-580 or whatever the SAT II cut-off is for 63. Im sure anyone who's taken AP spanish would be able to get higher than that on the SAT II.</p>
<p>"... you can't pass out of the FL requirement - you have to take at least one class at duke (as far as i know)"</p>
<p>I don't know how to do the proper quoting.
You definitely need to complete one 100-level class at Duke to fulfill the FL requirement (if you place into the 100-level). Or three semesters of another language. Learn a new language if you can. Make use of the opportunities. Duke's good with the languages.</p>