I need your help in deciding what to do.

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<p>My main problem is that I want to go to the best school possible but at the same time I also want to ensure that my chances for externally transferring into Wharton School at Penn. are leveraged. </p>

<p>My question is, if I want to go into investment-banking or hedge funds on Wall Street, how could I maximize my connections and respect as an entering employee?</p>

<p>I really want to go to Wharton, but was denied ED. I know that it will get me the connections and respect I need. So that's why Im in desperate need to transfer to it. </p>

<p>If I get an Econ major degree from RU, then it won't get me to the same place that an Econ degree from Wharton would get me. At the same time, at Northwestern, I might be pressed to study all the time and might not be able to get a high enough GPA and enough ECs to transfer out to a place like Wharton (that is assuming i GET off the waitlist at Northwestern).</p>

<p>What should I do?</p>

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<p>Dude if banking is your goal, Northwestern by itself IS a target school. while it may not be as heavily recruited as wharton, it certainly ain't bad. my friend's got several BB offers from NW. if you do go to northwestern, i wouldn't make your primary goal to transfer out to wharton. instead, just try to do your best and you will be successful.</p>

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<p>your odds of getting in as an external transfer are extremely low no matter where you go, and I feel comfortable saying are virtually zero at a place like RU (not sure what this is, Rutgers?). If you were waitlisted at NW, even after a year Wharton will likely not consider you a strong enough candidate no matter what you do (a perfect freshman year at an excellent school like NW might do it, but even then it's doubtful). I hate to sound so harsh, but it is very important that you be realistic about your situation. I agree with the above poster that Northwestern in and of itself is an excellent institution, one that I actually think is generally underrated by us folks on the coasts, and I would focus on getting off their waitlist (make sure you make your presence known to the admissions office people, though I honestly have no idea how many they take off the list each year).</p>

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<p>So in otherwords,</p>

<p>Chance of Getting Into Wharton Given That I go To Rutgers as Freshman</p>

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<p>Chance of Getting Into Wharton Given that I go to Northwestern as Freshman</p>

<p>Northwestern seems to have recruiting heavy for the midwest area, but I want to go to Wall Street. My folks have expressed concerns that Northwestern just might not have that "buzz" that Wharton does. And certainly they think that Rutgers will almost definitely not leave me off ina good position with an M.A. in economics after four years and that i'd be better off doing something technical like engineering at Rutgers.</p>

<p>But I have my heart set on i-banking or hedge funds and I'd like to start off my career with a bang and a lot of connections.</p>

<p>Once again, I have called Northwestern to let them know of my interest and certainly getting off the waitlist is not a definite thing either.</p>

<p>I dont seem to be as enthusiastic about Northwestern than I was about Wharton or even Rutgers either. It generally comes down to what's more convenient in terms of closer to home and what will land me a great connection after 4 years assuming I do not successfully transfer into Wharton School</p>

<p>Ugh. So frustrating. Turned down by so many schools that I felt I was qualified at. NYU(Stern)...U.Chicago...many ivies....darn</p>

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<p>did you apply to wharton? i couldve sworn you applied to engineering.</p>

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<p>The schools you got into are really great, and Northwestern is also a great place for what you want to do. I don't think anyone can tell you which would make it easier for you to get into, that's something only an adcom might be able to tell you.</p>

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<p>little more feedback and im set.</p>

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<p>I'd go to Northwestern.</p>

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<p>NU >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rutgers. </p>

<p>Forget about Wharton. It doesn't want you. You may not want to hear it, but your only shot now is for an MBA or PhD in Business Administration. Just work your ass off for the next 10 years and apply as a graduate student.</p>

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<p>Venkat is a little abrupt, but yeah...go where you'll be happiest and most successful, because transferring to Wharton is unlikely.</p>

<p>In that vein, I'd go to Northwestern.</p>

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<p>I see, so I suppose y'll would agree if i were to say that a degree in Econ from NW would get me much farther than a degree in Econ from Rutgers?</p>

<p>I'm also really looking to go to a school that will be a "head-turner" since that is very important, whether or not many people will agree with me.</p>

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<p>wait....hopeful....are you also deciding between Northwestern and Rutgers?</p>

<p>Based on what the guys said above, I would tend to say that they view Northwestern to be far better than Rutgers, in whatever degree one goes for...</p>

<p>I still have to go see the campus and whatnot to decide, and btw I'm still waitlisted so it's not even a sure thing.</p>

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<p>oooooo, so YOU'RE hopeful2007 AND magnetschoolCA?? lol, looking back at your posts you seemed pretty obsessive about transfering into wharton...</p>

<p>anyway, if prestige is what you're after, Northwestern econ is def up there. It will probably get you farther than a Rutgers degree only because of 1) the stronger recruiting and alumni network at Northwestern and 2) the prestige of the econ department (if you plan on going into academia). However, since you have been waitlisted there, I would essentially count that option out.</p>

<p>Rutgers is def not a bad school if that's what you're thinking. You probably are in the honors program there, right? Either way, it's not the end of the world, and you will def have plenty of opportunities. If you plan on changing your major, I know of the top of my head that Accounting at Rutgers has excellent recruiting by the Big 4. Get a high accounting GPA at rutgers, and the resulting big-4 job will definately be your "head turner."</p>

<p>one thing though: why do you "really looking" to go to a "head turner" school? true, prestige may help in getting a job offers and whatnot. however, the reason you're going to college shouldn't be to impress other people. since YOU'RE the one going to college, your education should essentially be about YOU. and also remember that the school you go to will never define you. it may help you hone in your innate skills and talents, but it's not the single most important characteristic about you. looking through your previous posts, it seems that you are completely bent on attending a "head turner" school because you believe it will make you a "head turner" as well - and that isn't true at all. your education will only be what you make of it, and even the best education in the world will not make you successful beyond your own motivation and talent.</p>

<p>EDIT: No offense dude, but responding to your own posts with another screename is pretty... lame</p>

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<p>hopeful I think you should go to community college</p>

<p>And since you're the same person as magnet, that goes for the two of you</p>

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<p>You know, now that you guys actually start to wonder that hopeful is me....I do notice a really really crazy coincedental thing.</p>

<p>he is crazy about this head-turner thing from nw, and rutgers and apparently u guys think I am too.</p>

<p>But to answer you're question, no I am not hopeful2007. And Idk what I can do to prove that to you but it's ok if you don't want to believe me.</p>

<p>EDIT: Why would I respond to my own post if I were hopeful2007.....does that even make sense? lol</p>

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<p>wow, i thought at least you would at least be rational and admit you were both one and the same. so now, i must resort to brute evidence!</p>

<p>quote by hopeful2007, 04-03-2007, 03:32 PM

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1540 SATs
top 6%</p>

<p>so-so ECs, 1 v-sity sport
no leadership though in ECs</p>

<p>good-to-very good but not "Holy crap excellent" essays, and recommendations</p>

<p>couple of AP awards and PSAT award

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<p>quote by magnetschoolCA, 11-12-2006, 10:58 AM </p>

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please post your stats.</p>

<p>Here are mine</p>

<p>790M 640CR 690W
SAT II: 800 Math 2c
750 Chem</p>

<p>AP: 5's on chem, calc BC, bio, stats, physics c</p>

<p>top 6%</p>

<p>so-so ECs
1 varsity sport

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<p>I don't care that you're bad at adding up your SAT scores. how many other people are there in the world that post on CC, top 6%, use the EXACT phrase "so-so" to describe their "ECs," do precisely ONE varsity sport, accepted to the same EXACT schools (and rejected from the same), and talk and act the same way on this forum??? (and i may also add that, at times, magnet helped bump up hopeful's dead threads)</p>

<p>Dude, i was hoping you would be mature about it and just laugh it off. but you don't have to go around and lie. </p>

<p>either way, i do hope you take my advice because I believe you really do need it :)</p>

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<p>whoa being really investigative there...haha
I am laughing, but just at the fact that you went to dig up info and really randomly, to be honest with you, connect all this stuff.</p>

<p>If I truly were hopeful, would it make sense for me to post immediately after my own post? I mean, wouldn't that literally be "giving" it away?</p>

<p>On another note, thanks for your advice and I'll take it seriously.</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

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<p>hahahahahahahahahahaha</p>

<p>hopefulmagnet, I really hope that you don't ever come to Wharton or I will sit on you. Who says "top 6%" anyway? You're either low enough to give actual rank, or you're in the top 5% or top 10 %.</p>

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<p>watch out matt, he might like that sort of thing</p>

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<p>He'll do it too</p>