<p>You know, this thread is kind of giving me a tough time with my stance on abortion. </p>
<p>I’ve always been pro-choice (not because I liked the idea of abortion but because I believe in a woman’s right to choose). However, reading people say they would somehow kill the baby gave me a really bad feeling. I thought to myself “Don’t kill the baby, get an abortion.” I then realized that the logic of that statement was flawed. Now I’m not sure where I stand. Thanks, CC.</p>
<p>lol seriously…</p>
<p>Abortions may not be free, but at least they’re (more) safe and don’t usually end in your own death. Which…you know, you don’t necessarily want as we all want to go to college, right? :)</p>
<p>There’s a significant difference between killing an embryo/fetus and an actual baby.</p>
<p>Personally I find nothing wrong with the former, the latter indeed could be considered cruel.</p>
<p>^^Nulli, somehow I believe these people are not being entirely serious. :)</p>
<p>I recognize that, but it just made me realize that I’m opposed to killing babies, yet somehow I’m OK with abortion. </p>
<p>(My understanding of people saying they would kill the baby was kill the unborn baby)</p>
<p>Well that’s because you’re not really “killing” a baby in abortion.</p>
<p>please re-read my post haters. i meant to say i would not kill my child. so killing myself initially would be a bad idea. cyber-misinterpretation?</p>
<p>Indeed, the whole point is that you want to get rid of the baby you would otherwise have to end up actually killing, giving away/condemning it to a sucky life, raising in shame/with enormous losses greater than several hundred dollars.</p>
<p>It’s not a baby until it can survive on its own. Abortions are illegal at that point.</p>
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<p>Yeah, I always thought that too. But it’s still ending a life that would have been. It’s just something that there’s no defined answer on.</p>
<p>^ It is not a human life unless it can survive without a host.</p>
<p>simple: don’t have sex</p>
<p>Between condoms and birth control, this is unlikely. I’d use the morning after pill (or OD on birth control, which, if done “properly,” is precisely the same as taking the morning after pill), but since condoms and birth control both make the likelihood of pregnancy EXTREMELY unlikely, I’d probably not realize it until too late. At that point I’d have a (perfectly legal) abortion, and I’d make my boyfriend pay for it.</p>
<p>Ok I am on the pill and we used condoms and there is still a chance I am pregnant. </p>
<p>I will be getting a legal abortion if I am pregnant.</p>
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<p>Yes, I like romani’s rationale. One of the characteristic of a living organism is that is must be able to reproduce/survive independently.</p>
<p>In addition,my opinion is that due to the fact that it hasn’t experienced anything, it has no potential since it has no thoughts.</p>
<p>Oh, please. It’s not a life that IS until it happens, and the kid is born. Otherwise, we’re (females) all murderers of lives that could have been when we menstruate.</p>
<p>Not to mention we’re all genocists thousands over for not being lusty, constantly-having-sex housewives whose lives are dedicated to just that. By not engaging in intercourse 24/7, we’re all atrocious murderers who end (before they even start!) “lives that would have been”. It’s just that some would-haves make it farther than others.</p>
<p>FWIW, I do NOT think abortion should be used as a first form of birthcontrol. It is irresponsible and not healthy for the mother. However, there is no use in outlawing abortions because they will still happen.</p>
<p>I am pro-abortion only because there are circumstances of rape when a woman needs to make the decision. In other cases, well you did it…you pay for it.</p>
<p>Under normal circumstances, I would not get pregnant. </p>
<p>Under the pretend circumstances here, if it happened, I wouldn’t have an abortion. I know some people say it isn’t killing, but it is putting an end to something that might have been. Well, actually, very likely would have been had it not been…er…aborted. I don’t really have anything against other people doing it, but I can’t. </p>
<p>And isn’t an embryo kind of like a parasite, which depends on something else? In which case, parasites are living things that can’t survive without depending on another living creature. </p>
<p>Anyway, just a curious point. I’d most likely put the baby up for adoption. I wouldn’t be able to provide for it, but I’m pretty sure some other family would be in need (in want?) of a child.</p>
<p>“It’s not a life that IS until it happens, and the kid is born. Otherwise, we’re (females) all murderers of lives that could have been when we menstruate.”</p>
<p>When we menstruate, the eggs aren’t fertilized. It’s quite a different thing when an egg is fertilized. And menstruation is rather involuntary.</p>
<p>^Eh, that’s a bit crude.</p>
<p>Sometimes things happen. Like, say you planned to have a child. But then economic difficulties hit close to home, and suddenly you’re bankrupt, living in an increasingly pathetic car, and pregnant.</p>
<p>You might want to rethink things.</p>
<p>Or say you do an inspection and the child has some gross genetic disease or possible mutation. Do you really want your unborn child to live with that?</p>
<p>Not a very compassionate idea.</p>
<p>All in all, it’s simply not a very good idea to automatically assume all women in need of abortions are shameless sluts who shirked responsibilities and precautions. It’s also a bit inconsiderate to force the child on the mother as punishment to her. I hardly think such a woman, in that case, would mother the child very well. That’s very cruel to the child; I often find it shocking that pro-life people who “care” about babies would do that to them. I may not enjoy kids, but they’re people too. We have enough undernurtured murderers and rapists in the world as it is. Ever wonder what influence their parents had on them? :0</p>
<p>Just sayin’.</p>