IITs - the truth from an Indian's perspective

<p>Has transfer facility to good Liberal Arts College or National Universities in USA
LAC’s…no way</p>

<p>Has timely completion of the 4 yrs course and cheap city and cheap cost for undergraduates
Define cheap…all the univs in India…almost all…cost a tenth of an Ivy.</p>

<p>As for other univs…how do you plan to apply being a SAARC student?
Is there a specific process?</p>

<p>IIT preparation…it’s easier winning the Putnam
seriously</p>

<p>Didn’t you just give the exam…like today?</p>

<p>Gah, how on earth can you ‘give’ an exam? You can only ‘take’ an exam!</p>

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<p>This calculates the acceptance rate in the wrong way, or at least in a way that is not directly comparable to Harvard’s. If you calculated Harvard’s acceptance rate based on how many people took tests necessary for Harvard admission, you would have a similarly low acceptance rate. A lot of IIT applicants would be scared off from applying at all (thus RAISING the base acceptance rate) if the IIT admission process included teacher recommendations, high school transcript review, and interviews.</p>

<p>There is no safety for any international needing a lot of aid. And with the top colleges stepping up recruitment of internationals, the chances of getting in are going down every year. Think about it, each college offering aid to internationals will take only a few each year,and with the number of applications growing each year, even
getting into the less popular colleges will be very, very hard.</p>

<p>What do Indians do who are not applying in the US and do poorly on the one exam?</p>

<p>They go to Babu Banarasi Das</p>

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<p>But seriously. You have to think about the fact that a HUGE per cent - what, like 70 per cent? - of the population is rural/below the poverty line and doesn’t go to college, or even high school, at all. They work in agriculture, or take the most menial jobs in cities. There’s a percentage that goes to the UK or Australia or Singapore or some other country.</p>

<p>I know a handful of IIT grads and a bigger handful of past IIT hopefuls. Like people have said a school such as caltech serves the purpose of an education within the humanities better than IIT. </p>

<p>JEE: Joint Entrance Exam. Your whole career at IIT depends on this one test. While people say it is all based on this test, it is not. One starts preparing for this exam from eighth grade, he/she will study it daily. Many get coaching pre test. </p>

<p>I will give you some perspective on this. My dad took the JEE thrice, he did not get so much as a waitlist (I don’t know if they do that or not… I am sure their yield is above a 100%… :)). He got into Harvard grad with a full fellowship and got flown over there on Harvard’s behalf. </p>

<p>He was one of the kids who prepared for this with intense dedication from the beginning of eighth grade. If you are familiar with India you will understand that Indian secondary education (“government schools”) are terrible. Close to a hundred kids to one teacher, and toilets which make you puke when you see a picture sitting in a Ritz Carleton. </p>

<p>Indian Higher education is a little different. While not all Indian institutes are all that great, IIT is subject to eight times the money that the others are subject to. This brings a lot of controversy because the large bulk of these prodigies end up going to Harvard for grad school and work and pay taxes for America. </p>

<p>I also know, as I said earlier, a fair amount of IIT grads. The success of such people is incomparable. Of course there are many (the majority) may not be rich billionaires, but the contrast is quite startling. I know an IIT grad who recently flew on a private jet with Mukesh Ambani. I am not sure if this person is eminent to us in America, but he is the richest man in Asia. </p>

<p>So end in end. It does not matter how damn smart you are IIT is a reach cubed. 98.5% of the half million applicants will not stand on the IIT campus ever. You will go there and may end up being an idiot in everything but math/science/tech. You will go there, and come out as a hero in any Indian’s eye. IIT is greater than MIT, but has no comprehensive education. If such is you field, there are few options greater than IIT.</p>

<p>Quasiprofound: 500,000 people apply. India hosts over one billion people. You do the math, a super small portion of India. Do not get me wrong, however. Many people who apply to IIT are poor and went to government schools. All this does is train them for brute rigor. Most of IITs applicants are admissible.</p>

<p>Hmom: There are plenty of other Indian institutions which, if you want to go, you can get into. None of them are a safety for the large percentage on Indians. For my dad such an institution acted as a catalyst for american ivies.</p>

<p>On a side note, the JEE is fairly comprehensive for the area of study. It is enough to keep IITs integrity through one test.</p>

<p>“There are plenty of other Indian institutions which, if you want to go, you can get into.”</p>

<p>Except that the admission for all these schools depends, again, on one exam, so they can’t be called a SAFETY. </p>

<p>Other than that, great post. :slight_smile: You sure you don’t live here?</p>

<p>^They depend on the tests, yes. Compared to IIT, however, it’s like a sleepwalk.</p>

<p>You live in India?</p>

<p>Yep.
10char</p>

<p>Where in? We may be moving to India by next year. Do you speak either Telugu or Kannada? </p>

<p>Do you plan on applying to IIT?</p>

<p>I’m not from the South (where they speak Telegu or Kannada), sorry…I assume you’ll be moving to Tamil Nadu or Kerala or something?</p>

<p>IIT? God no. I’m not a science person at all…if you want to give the JEE you need to take science in classes (grades) 11-12 and I’m a Humanities girl through and through. Apparently the only Indian on CC who is (sigh).</p>

<p>Haha. We may move to Bangalore (kannada), Hydrabad (Telugu), chennai (Tamil), or Mumbai (hindi)… I am fluent in Kannada and Telugu though I know a little of the latter two. </p>

<p>Do you go to an international school? While people may say those schools are good (which they are, amazing) I doubt they have sent one kid to IIT.</p>

<p>Call me an ignorant b*stard, but answer me this-
Why is it that so many other universities rank much higher in every aspect of college than IIT? I constantly hear about how pathetic the American school system is, yet we have the greatest universities in the world. People often will comeback asking why everything is being outsourced to China/India; but the simple answer to that is because it’s cheap, and despite the lack of quality CEO’s and Chairmen and driven towards profit, and none else. Another response is the amount of money we have in America. Well if all these other students are so driven to succeed, why hasn’t the Indian nation risen to one of the most powerful? They may hold nearly 1/7th of the worlds population, but in international affairs they matter no more than Mexico. The Prussians where renowned for their hard work and dedication, and that mentality continues to this day through what we now know as “German Engineering”. The Nazi regime nearly took over the world, through hard work and dedication.
Now, all of this talk about how hard and intense these Asian schools are highlights the simple mindedness of a society. Quite frankly, I’m extremely unimpressed with the intellectuals that Asian nations have managed to produce. The truly gifted ones flee to America and become college professors, while the other some odd billion people spend the rest of their lives in one of the most over populated countries in the world. These intellectuals sound more like cowards to me.</p>

<p>Mumbai’s in Maharasthra, lol, so their language is actually Marathi. There’s a lot of Hindi speakers though. Wow, that’s a wide range of places. </p>

<p>No, I don’t go to an international school, but I do go to a private English-medium school (most government schools aren’t English-medium) that was built in the colonial 1800s. I’m sure plenty of international schools have sent kids to IIT, but they’re more focussed on sending kids abroad. They do have a proportion of kids FROM abroad, so that might account for that.</p>

<p>^You certainly do sound like an arrogant b astard. </p>

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IIT is NOT comprehensive. If you go there to learn international relations YOU are the idiot. </p>

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Did anyone deny this?</p>

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You my friend represent joe six pack. Clearly you do not realize we have been our own country for fifty years. This America you speak of? 1776. Learn you facts before you make stupid accusations. </p>

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This has nothing to do with IIT. That explains the legacy of great leaders. Nehru, Gandi… All were models for Martin Luther King. </p>

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Go back to the KKK… </p>

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Hence the stereotype of asians being smarter, yada yada yada? Hence us having some of the most amazing business leaders? </p>

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Wow, no wonder people hate us Americans. Go have some more Jack Daniels with Glen Beck. </p>

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Makes your degree from Kentucky Kommunity Kollege look good eh? And your son’s from Kentucky State College. Must make you feel proud.</p>

<p>Quasi: Cool thanks. If we move there it would be as expats so my parents thought that intl school would be the best (though I got accepted to a school here, boarding, which would be better).</p>

<p>I know that they speak Marathi, I thought Hindi was more prominent. From my visits, at Mumbai Hindi has gotten me farther than my EXTREMELY LIMITED marathi.</p>

<p>Borb: Intellectuals ‘flee’ to America and other places because there are more opportunities in other places to learn. Here in India you have to decide on your career before you start college, whereas in the US you have two years before you decide, you have time to decide what you’re fitted for. Nobody in this post said anything about how pathetic the US college system is.</p>

<p>The problem of India is a complex one: there’s the fact that there’s so much diversity here that every state is like a country all on its own, with its own language - or multiple languages, there are 1452 languages here in total - and it’s hard to find common ground between people from different regions. You’d have to do an in-depth study of Indian history since the British empire started here to know the causes of poverty here.</p>