ill PROVE that SAT scores are now worthless

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of Pennsylvania
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<p>... or at least you can, by chancing me and saying i have no chance =D</p>

<p>Wharton ED Applicant</p>

<p>Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Chinese
School: Public
State: Maryland</p>

<p>SAT:
took twice
1st: CR 800 M 790 W 690
2nd: 2400
SAT II
US 800 MII 800 Physics 800</p>

<p>AP
5 on Government
5 on Calculus AB
I'll post the rest when i get this years scores, as i only was able to take 2 sophomore year</p>

<p>GPA:
Unweighted:
3.93/4.00
Taken most difficult course load possible
Top 5% of Class, I'm probably higher, but I can't say for sure</p>

<p>Junior Year Courses:</p>

<p>Calculus BC AP
US History AP
Physics C AP
Orchestra
English 11 GT (Basically AP course, as it's the highest one available and we take the AP Test)
World History AP
Span IV</p>

<p>Senior Year Courses:</p>

<p>Span V AP
Mentor Period
English 12 AP
Orchestra
Statistics AP
Comparative Gov't AP (might switch for Environmental Science instead... can any one offer their opinion?)
Economics AP</p>

<p>EC
County Orchestra
Allstate Orchestra
Chinese School Student Government
NHS
Math Team Captain
Science Technology Engineering Math Initiative Secretary
It's Academic TV Team member
Math Tutor (Volunteer)
Library Assistant (Volunteer)
Lab Assistant (Volunteer)
Music Honor Society
Foreign Language Honor Society</p>

<p>Work Experience:
Worked as a General Assistant at the Shock Trauma Center in Baltimore over the summer as a General Assistant.</p>

<p>Other:
Took a Summer Course at University of Maryland in Western Civilization on a scholarship they gave me</p>

<p>as you can see, i'm really just asking for someone to chance me.
Please and Thank You =D</p>

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<p>chancing is a waste of time. were not admissions officers. you have great stats. you dont need recognition from other anonymous college bound bug outs. just go to the beach and relax. you're gonna go somewhere great.</p>

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<p>Ugh, congratulations. You have now made the rest of us feel like s-h-*-t.</p>

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<p>^^^^ word. hahaha</p>

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<p>yo rr119 is my dude</p>

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<p>is my application really that good? I always thought that i was a bit of a stretch due to my weak EC and mediocre GPA =/
I mean, i've seen people with PAGES of EC on this site...</p>

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<p>As long as you show some type of passion through your essays and they're good. Also explain why you want to go to Wharton. Everyone likes money, everyone wants to be successful. What do you want from Wharton.</p>

<p>The GPA is great and I'm sure you're taking tough courses. I kind of want to steal your SAT scores from you. If you want to get into Wharton, you need to focus on a passion you have. What makes you different from other applicants? Make sure your essays are very good. </p>

<p>If you can write interesting, creative, and non-cliche essays that show you, your ECs, your personality, etc., you will have no problem. good luck!</p>

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<p>^actually, I'd make the essay focus on why I want to go to Wharton and why I want to go to Penn as a whole. Penn is really big on the one university concept and you will have a huge uphill battle getting in if you devote your entire "Why Penn" essay to Wharton.</p>

<p>OP, your grades and ECs are fine. You don't really stand out on paper compared to other applicants except for your 2400. You could easily be accepted or rejected depending on what the adcoms are looking for and how you put your application together.</p>

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<p>3.93 gpa, mediocre?</p>

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<p>Another one that just wants to show off...</p>

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<p>A 2400 SAT and a 3.93 GPA is horrible, you're entirely correct.</p>

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<p>also for your essays, talk about what you want from penn but also what you will bring to penn.</p>

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<p>Let me put it this way, if you don't get in, I won't either :(</p>

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<p>I am not sure what the SAT scores prove. My daughter has just got her results - not excellent but not bad. But spending more time (not to mention money) trying to up the scores - which she, like all, wants to do - is in my view of as much use as trying to get my dog to finesse its trick to get a biscuit. Interesting - amusing - but useful? Would the time thus wasted not be better spent reading Verlaine, studying Chinese (or whatever language) or digging further into advanced calculus? No university or college in Europe wants to hear about SATs. They - irrespective of which country - want to look at the student as an individual not at some pavlovian creature that just managed to pull the right toggles at the right time.</p>

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<p>to clarify, i consider the 3.93 mediocre because it was me being stupid freshman year =/
and yea, i'm planning on devoting about half of my remaining summer to essays</p>

<p>venkat, thanks for the advice about incorporating the one college concept.</p>

<p>and pmrl, if i wanted to show off, i wouldve picked a college forum that wasnt an ivy league one, since my stuff isnt uncommon around here</p>

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<p>
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and yea, i'm planning on devoting about half of my remaining summer to essays

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bad idea! you're only young once...and essays are overrated anyway</p>

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<p>@rister- i totally agree. i wrote my essays in about a week and didn't even bother to proofread them. in hindsight it was probably a stupid risk, but it worked out fine for me, just make sure that you really are passionate about your essays and no matter how poorly it may be written (to a certain extent) it will all work out. in all honesty one awkward sentence may keep you at the computer for an hour, but it won't keep you out of penn.</p>

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<p>a summer for essays?? does it take that long to write 500 words?? some of the supplement essays for a few colleges i wrote an hour before the deadline and i did relatively fine.</p>

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<p>i think some people may have misunderstood what i meant by essay writing.
The time i devote to it will largely be me searching through my years of accumulated stuff for those essay topic ideas that express me as an individual. As I don't know the topics and I'm a bit of a pessimist, i decided to start now and devote half the summer. I may very well finish ahead of schedule, I'm just choosing to start now.</p>

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<p>Congratulations, stereotypical Asian applicant. Your chances aren't as good as your stats.</p>