<p>Sorry to bring about another tread involving the difficulty of Cornell, but I was wondering how ILR compares to other Cornell programs in terms of work load/difficulty. I've seen many treads about the masses of work arctitechture/engineer majors gets and have heard AEM is considered one of the relativly easy majors, but where does ILR rank in respect to these areas?</p>
<p>Although I'm not there yet it's lots of reading. ILoveReading. It seems to be easier than some of the other colleges...the class means in the ILR reqs are pretty good.</p>
<p>You'll work hard here no matter what you do. But honestly, from what I know (and I know a fair number of ILR majors), it's on the easier side of the scale.</p>
<p>Ya I mean you are going to work hard no matter what. To me reading is easier than doing things like engineering and architecture n such so I'm happy I'll be on the reading side of the spectrum.</p>
<p>there are some really difficult classes - in fact, one of the hardest at Cornell is an ILR class. </p>
<p>other than that, it's pretty manageable. It's easy in the fact that the toughest thing to do is stay on top of the very large reading list - I'd much rather do that than memorize mathematical formulas and stuff. Papers and such can be tough at times, it varies widely from class to class. Overall, it's not weed-out organic chem, but it's not the A+ happy AEM or PAM or the "folding sheets for credit" known at the hotel school.</p>
<p>Out of curiosity, what is the name of that very hard ILR class?</p>
<p>CB201 with prof. gold</p>
<p>my friend at ILR tells me that he typically doesn't need to work on his assignments during week days but he usually finishes them over the weekends, which is still a whole lot better than me (engineer :() who is compelled into finishing all the homework during the week and do more studying on the weekends.</p>
<p>my freshman year at ILR was a joke. Probably easier than high school. I'm expecting it to get a lot tougher next year though. Thank goodness I don't have CB201 with professor Gold next semester.</p>
<p>Thanks for the info Gome, now I know who to avoid while making an ajustment to Cornell. (dont wanna kill myself the first semster)</p>
<p>i should also add that it's the best class i've ever taken at Cornell and it'd be a very shallow move to avoid the class because you think you can't handle it.</p>
<p>cb201 is taken in fall of sophomore year so you don't have to worry just yet</p>
<p>gomestar: i think it depends on how much you want to pursue law. i heard it's very useful for people wanting to go that route but needlessly hard if you don't want to.</p>
<p>By no means am I trying to completely avoid it. However, Im going to be transferring (I'll be a sophmore) and for my first semester I do intend to work hard, but I'd also like to have time to meet some new people and ajust to the environment at Cornell. I dont shy away from a situation just because its difficult, I'm not going to a avoid a one of the "best" classes simply because of difficulty.</p>
<p>"gomestar: i think it depends on how much you want to pursue law. i heard it's very useful for people wanting to go that route but needlessly hard if you don't want to"</p>
<p>It has nothing to do with how much you want to go into law. I'm not going to law school it's still by far the most useful class I've had. Just because the word "law" is in the title doesn't mean it's only for those who want to have a career in law one day. In fact, the only thing "law" about the class is the fact that Prof. Gold uses law cases as readings - this is only a small part of the course, the REAL thing he teaches is critical reading, analysis, and strategic research and writing ... IMO areas where the US education system is severely lacking. </p>
<p>The class is alot of work but the mean is no worse than any other ILR class. I believe that those who shy away from the class are trying pretty hard not to get their money's worth of education at Cornell. </p>
<p>"Im going to be transferring'</p>
<p>you'll likely take it 2nd semester like most transfers. First semester is easy.</p>
<p>gomestar: I'm enrolled in Gold's class for next semester (by choice) but starting to freak out about it... is the class worth it? And can I survive taking 4 other classes in addition?</p>
<p>Do people honestly enroll at Cornell without the expectation of it's academic intensity and difficulty? It's college, suck it up and battle. The knowledge you gain from a great professor and personal growth exhibited by pushing yourself to the limit is exponentially more important in the long run than a measly grade.</p>
<p>I think people who enroll in Cornell expect a difficult workload, Cornell is synonymous with being difficult. But you see, when people hear "one of the most difficult classes at Cornell", an already notoriously difficult school, it gets people to think twice. Although I do agree with you about pushing yourself in order to make yourself better, you really cant ignore a grade completely. The fact is, your GPA will have a great bearing on where you end up after your undergrad degree (law school/business school/etc...). Sadly, some people who takes easy classes/go to a school with grade inflation will have an upper hand against someone who takes difficult classes and attains a mediocre GPA. I don’t mean to argue or start a debate but I also don’t think people should judge so hastily when someone questions themselves for taking a difficult class because the decision isn’t black and white.</p>
<p>I absolutely agree, I just hate to see kids always looking for the easy way out. Regardless, I'll probably be seeing you next year in these ILR classes. :)</p>
<p>lol it's so easy to tell which review of prof Gold on ratemyprofessors is gomestar's...</p>