<p>I do understand that to some extent that SAT scrores and acceptance rate do not have a perfect indirect relationship…but the way gomestar is talking makes it seem like the relationship beteen acceptance rate and SAT scores is perfectly direct (i know he didnt say that, he is jsut makin it sound like that)…which is hard to beilive</p>
<p>“gomestar i would like i link to that information”</p>
<p>go find it yourself, it’s readily available information. I’m not going to go dig around when it’s something that you’re perfectly capable of doing yourself. I’ll give you a hint: AAP accepts the fewest applicants yet has the “lowest” incoming stats while engineering accepts the highest percentage (at least they did a year or two ago, not sure about the most recent class) yet they also have the highest SAT average. </p>
<p>“either back it up with data or i dnt wana hear it”</p>
<p>again, go find it yourself. The data is out there. I’m not really sure where you found your “data” that said the average ACT at Cornell was a 26, but don’t use that site again. Remember, it’s Cornell University and not Cornell College.</p>
<p>according to uncle ezra, sat scores by college is not publicly released. that’s funny because i could have sworn i read the averages before … somewhere. I do remember seeing that the most selective school had the lowest SAT average, which makes sense if you think about it.</p>
<p>Cornell Hotel School is the best in the country and really has almost no competition. What’s more important to running a hotel? Work experience or your SAT Verbal score? </p>
<p>Cornell Engineering is also notoriously self selective. The 40% acceptance rate (I believe that’s what it is) is no indication of the quality of the school for sure. It’s the best in the ivy league with no exception. </p>
<p>“Cornell University also does not have average SAT scores available by college.” - <a href=“http://ezra.cornell.edu/posting.php?timestamp=1013490000[/url]”>http://ezra.cornell.edu/posting.php?timestamp=1013490000</a></p>
<p>btw lose the attitude plzaccept.</p>
<p>-Lurker-
You remember seeing it because they used to release it. Now you have to hunt for the info.</p>
<p>idc what n e of you say…obviously intrest in the subject plays a key role but even if u strtd your own hotel chain and u have a 1.9GPA u prob wont get in…</p>
<p>with that said i am sure some schools are harder to get into than otehrs…even the admissions ppl will tell u that some of the colleges have agreements with local community colleges making it very easy to get in after 2 yrs…so some are easier to get into than others…if you disagree go strt your own thread stating so…otheriwise stick to the topic instead of bashing me</p>
<p>“some of the colleges have agreements with local community colleges making it very easy to get in after 2 yrs…”</p>
<p>last time I knew, this was for very limited majors (I know of agriculture, but not anything else) … and the guarantee wasn’t necessarily for admissions but rather for credit transfers. </p>
<p>" even if u strtd your own hotel chain and u have a 1.9GPA u prob wont get in…"</p>
<p>maybe not, but you’d be WAY more attracive than a 4.0 with zero experience. Fact. </p>
<p>“i am sure some schools are harder to get into than otehrs”</p>
<p>only for the individual. I’m not sure why you’re so stubborn to learn something new. I’ll repeat myself (you seem a little slow) - I got into my school at Cornell, I wouldn’t have a shot in hell at engineering (despite their high acceptance rate) nor hotel nor architecture. The same is said for others, my architecture friends would have a very slim shot at my school. I guess a way to answer your question … the hardest school to get into is the one you’re not interested in (this applies for all applicants)</p>
<p>gomestar obviously u dnt know wat you are talking about.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.cals.cornell.edu/cals/prospective/admissions/applying/transfer/agreements.cfm[/url]”>http://www.cals.cornell.edu/cals/prospective/admissions/applying/transfer/agreements.cfm</a>
“meet the following transfer criteria are guaranteed admission.” and the criteria are basic…3.0 at a community college</p>
<p>IDK about u but if i was interested in CALS that seems VERY EASY TO ME. so its obviously easier to get into than the other schools through these agreements with the community colleges</p>
<p>ah, so it does exist in cals (hence the “last time I knew”) … i was confused since I lived with 200 transfer students and I haven’t met one that went to a community college then was guaranteed admission. My mistake (I do admissions for ILR and not cals)</p>
<p>“IDK about u but if i was interested in CALS that seems VERY EASY TO ME.”</p>
<p>you didn’t read into it very much (as expected). I picked a random major and these are the courses you have to complete before applying:</p>
<p>Biology 1 & 2
Academic writing 1 & 2 or writing and public speaking
Calculus 1, 2, & 3
Physics 1 (calculus-based)
Computer programming
Differential equations
Linear algebra
Physics 2 (calculus-based)
Engineering mechanics
General chemistry 1
Organic chemistry 1</p>
<p>it’s obvious: if you want to be in cals, forget your first 2 years at Cornell. Enroll in a specific community college and take the listed course load while meeting the academic standards. After you take all of that, then you can come to Cornell … it’s just that easy!!! </p>
<p>I still fully stand by my earlier statements that there isn’t one college that’s easier than the others. Got it?</p>
<p>plzaccept1989, before you question my level of intelligence again, insinuating that Gomestar does not “know what he is talking about” is farcical at best. If you actually took some time to use CC’s resources and search for previous ILR-related threads/posts, you’ll find he has perhaps the most ILR experience here at CC, especially in regards to admissions given his current work. Likewise, although your intention was (perhaps) not, your otherwise laconic first post in regards to ILR admissions certainly suggested otherwise. </p>
<p>What are you trying to prove here? From what I can tell from this thread, you really aren’t using CC to your advantage, and I’d kindly suggest you sing a different tune.</p>
<p>I’m glad to see we are arguing over something as trivial as ease of college admissions.</p>
<p>lets argue over something that’s worth debating: broccoli - friend or late-night foe?</p>
<p>hahaha i cannot wait until im sitting in my dorm next year and i can better participate in this discussion/argument/debate about ilr.</p>
<p>tun, diehldun, gomestar, figgy, i cant wait to join the ranks</p>
<p>Well gomestar although u are right about those requiremnts you choose the hardest major…for example if you were to choose applied economics and managment as a major (the cals program closest to ILR) these are the required classes:</p>
<p>Required:</p>
<p>Biology 1 & 2
Academic writing 1 & 2 or academic writing and public speaking
Economics 1 & 2 (one course in macroeconomics and one course in microeconomics)
Calculus 1 </p>
<p>that is nothing, many of us have finished most of those in HS through AP classes. and a 3.0 at a community college dnt make me laugh.</p>
<p>admission is NOT guaranteed for applied economics and mangement</p>
<p>“Students interested in Applied Economics and Management (Business Management), Biological Sciences, Biology & Society, Landscape Architecture are considered competitive transfer applicants if their interests are appropriate and meet the GPA, course and profile requirements. Due to enrollment limitations, guaranteed transfer admission cannot be granted.” </p>
<p>From the link you posted one page back.</p>
<p>Gee, that sounds similar to the transfer policies at nearly every Ivy League/Tier-1 college out there.</p>
<p>Transferring is simply too easy nowadays. We should all just apply to Princeton. Oh, wait..</p>
<p>In all honesty though, NY community colleges (I come from one) have sent off a lot of students to Cornell. I have met several and they range from brilliant to smart. Never ■■■■■■■■.</p>
<p>The guarantee, like with what gomestar said previously, is mainly with transfer credits. In my transfer credit evaluation with ILR admissions, many of my courses will indeed transfer without any problems. Others will not because they simply don’t fit the degree (not necessarily because of the nature of the syllabi.)</p>
<p>if you do not mind me asking, why were you at a community college?</p>
<p>Some of you kids have taken a very mature, well planned road. I have said over and over that if more kids would go to a community college for the first one or two years, they would be a far better college student overall. my d did not and recently told me this, “no matter how hard the school, college really does not prepare you for life after college.” meaning that in hs you are on a schedule, you go from 8-3 and you have to attend. you are watched, graded, told what to do. college is more “own your own” sleep until 12 if you want and skip class or not. thank goodness my d does not do this but has many friends that do. she said to me that it makes many of her friends not want to “work” because they can come and go as they please and get by with doing little. a job will not be like this. going to a community college and growing up a bit before spending lots of money and time on a 4-year school makes so much sense. I really commend those of you that do this. if i could only get my s to think this way!</p>
<p>makes sense.</p>