<p>Maybe you could report the posts as offensive and in the little reason why part say you just want them removed. That way it will be brought to their attention.</p>
<p>equine99,</p>
<p>You really like the straw man argument don't you? I said that those essays were written when I first took the class almost a year ago (since it is summer). I believe my writing level has improved. I also NEVER said that I am a scholarly writer. I said that the MODEL that I use is that of what a scholar uses.</p>
<p>Othello is a playwright, whatever.</p>
<p>I'm going to rewrite the Othello essay to show how well I write now. I will then send it to my counselor for evaluation to see if she deems it worthy of submission. If and when I do get accepted I will personally PM each one of you back :P</p>
<p>the fact that TheCaliforniaLife used a "tongue sticking out smiley" (:P) in his last post perhaps demonstrates his immaturity to responding well even when others do not agree. You honestly dont seem to deserve going to college; you are acting quite the child right now. Every time I post here in an effort to help you, you do something more childish than the last time. You have mentioned Equine99's name several times with unneccessary personal attacks full of unfounded arguments, and you listen to nothing anyone says. You should be glad that Equine possesses you maturity you lack so bad, or I would have gladly been rolling on the floor laughing as Equine verbally tore you limb from limb. Please grow up TheCaliforniaLife.</p>
<p>Ps: oh, and: "I will then send it to my counselor for evaluation to see if she deems it worthy of submission." <-- she won't. And if she DOES, then she needs to be fired.</p>
<p>"If and when I do get accepted I will personally PM each one of you back :P" <-- you wont, so you won't get a chance to use that precious inflammatory smiley of yours. </p>
<p>I PROMISE THAT WAS MY LAST TIME POSTING IN THIS WORTHLESS THREAD.</p>
<p>The whole point of Othello (the play, it's NOT a novel), is that man is corrupt.</p>
<p>And good vs. evil.</p>
<p>NOT jealousy.</p>
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<p>Um, actually Shakespeare was a playwright. Othello is a PLAY. Good job correcting yourself as you just keep making our points for us. And these are not little details--in an academic paper they matter. It shows respect (or lack there of) for the subject matter. I would liken calling a Play a Novel, to calling a man a woman. </p>
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It's addictive, isn't it? I would just love to go through each essay with a red pen, or simply go through line by line, but I have better things to do with my time. Thanks for the defensive words :-) I kind of find it amusing to see people who are so obviously wrong get really worked up.</p>
<p>geddes97,</p>
<p>This is my problem. I have to deal with hardheaded people T___T The whole point of a literary argumentative essay to to take something that is commonly percieved and prove it wrong with textual evidence from a work of literature. I believe that everything derived from jeolousy. This is what I will point out in my essay.</p>
<p>RBase07,</p>
<p>How am I suppose to deal with these people? No one understand the model I use and the point of it. The point of my essay is to state the unobvious/prove the common perception wrong. Yet I still get people who say "Isn't the dictionary definition of jealousy correct?".</p>
<p>your best bet here, TheCaliforniaLife, is simply to give up this argument and let it go. You're never gonna win it, not against us here at CC nor against the English professors who are going to be reviewing your essays at the college. The essays arent terrible, but they're not terribly good either. And unless they're terribly good, you're just wasting your time submitting them hoping for your placement to change.</p>
<p>Nobody here is trying to rip your words apart online, but when you sit here claiming that your are a profound, articulate scholar, quite naturally people are going to want to see tiny glimpses of that in just your everyday langauge (ie. your posts). I just read all of your posts over again, and the essays... and they're just trying so hard to SOUND ACADEMIC. You continue to put up this facade of academia in your writing voice that just sounds SOOO FAKE.</p>
<p>you said "No one understand the model I use and the point of it." <-- I'm glad you're finally starting to understand that. That means that your essays aren't good if they cannot communicate your point without you having to explain it in person yourself (and even THAT you do not seem quite capable of, stating that Othello is a playwright).</p>
<p>"The point of my essay is to state the unobvious/prove the common perception wrong. " <-- your essay didn't do that. They were awkward, confusing, filled with n00b mistakes, and quite frankly, ANNOYING to read. Yet you continued to argue that these mistakes were not present in the samples you presented. Then we went on to show you that they lacked the basic structure of a 5th grade five paragraph essay... and you went on to dispute that they had structure, by quoting them and writing out that they did. But you shouldnt have to do that.</p>
<p>This topic is a waste of space of this board. TheCaliforniaLife is seriously arguing his point, even when everyone who has responded to this topic says his essays are garbage bin material in most English high school teachers' rooms. I suspect that turning in these essays at almost any other high school English classroom would earn you low C's. At ANY college, these would be D material. They are NOT semi-polished, they are ****** first drafts. You never edited those. and it shows.</p>
<p>oh and your guidance counselor must be a fool if she told you they were any good.</p>
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<p>Maybe it is just me. I will admit to being quite a bit older than some of the posters on this thread. Maybe they just teach writing differently now from the way they did when I was an undergrad and a graduate student. Maybe I just attended slacker colleges (so much for choosing a damned ivy league school for my graduate education). </p>
<p>As a person who has written numerous papers through out my undergrad and graduate careers along with completing a masters thesis, not once but twice for two separate programs, throughout my educational experience I have never seen anything like what the OP presents as scholarly writing. In never read it in peer reviewed journal articles or seen it presented in conferences.</p>
<p>Equine99,</p>
<p>Aren't you a rising sophomore at a top LAC with something like a 3.9 gpa in econ? It can someties be a pretty writing intensive major. If I remember correctly you also want to go to law school. I know that law school does require a lot of writing.</p>
<p>I have read a couple of my D's papers that she has written in college (she attends what is percieved as a top school also), where she is in a very writing intensive major and she has had to do literary criticisms, and present arguments on certain topics. And still, I haven't seen any thing like what OP is presenting to be scholary work.</p>
<p>Equine, </p>
<p>And could you find it in your hear to forgive us for all of the times we criticized your papers when you were growing up and told you that you really needed to find a better way to phrase something and link your ideas together? And while there were many days that you rolled your eyes behind our backs, we can only hope that all of our nagging paid off.</p>
<p>perhaps you could get a job and only work a couple of hours per week. that would boost your score, right?</p>
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<p>Aren't you a rising sophomore at a top LAC with something like a 3.9 gpa in econ? It can someties be a pretty writing intensive major. If I remember correctly you also want to go to law school. I know that law school does require a lot of writing.</p>
<p>I have read a couple of my D's papers that she has written in college (she attends what is percieved as a top school also), where she is in a very writing intensive major and she has had to do literary criticisms, and present arguments on certain topics. And still, I haven't seen any thing like what OP is presenting to be scholary work.</p>
<p>Equine, </p>
<p>And could you find it in your hear to forgive us for all of the times we criticized your papers when you were growing up and told you that you really needed to find a better way to phrase something and link your ideas together? And while there were many days that you rolled your eyes behind our backs, we can only hope that all of our nagging paid off.
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<p>I thrive on criticism. When someone tells me what's wrong or unclear it helps me to improve. It can be difficult to step out of your own writing, so having someone to point out your faults only makes your papers better. </p>
<p>I am also minoring in english, and philosophy which are also writing intensive, so yeah, I would say I know a thing or two about how to write a sucessful paper.</p>
<p>And it is actually a 3.9175 ;)</p>
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I thrive on criticism. When someone tells me what's wrong or unclear it helps me to improve. It can be difficult to step out of your own writing, so having someone to point out your faults only makes your papers better.</p>
<p>I am also minoring in english, and philosophy which are also writing intensive, so yeah, I would say I know a thing or two about how to write a sucessful paper.</p>
<p>And it is actually a 3.9175
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Wow. That is impressive. I was planning on minoring in philosophy and majoring in english. I want to go to UCLA or if my grades permit it, CAL, to study law.</p>
<p>RBase07,</p>
<p>For a someone in the beginning of their senior year writing these essays, they don't seem remotely good? I never said I was a scholarly writer. I said I write to the model that a lot of english scholars write to. Also, my AP American Lit. teacher told me I have outstanding verbiage. I by no means believe I do. I think my diction is somewhat on the par of what it should be.</p>
<p>Perhaps you should look up the meaning of verbiage in a dictionary. The primary meaning is using too many words or excessively technical expressions.</p>
<p>This is not a compliment.</p>
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<p>I'm beginning to think you are trolling.</p>
<p>NotReady4Purple,</p>
<p>Vebiage: The manner in which something is expressed in words</p>
<p>He could very well be refering to this connotation of the term. It was used in this context: my teacher was talking to another student and he said, "You should see (my name)'s work. He has outstanding verbiage."</p>
<p>why do you keep saying "verbiage" and "diction" as if it makes you sound more intelligent? Who talks that way in everyday conversation?</p>
<p>"For a someone in the beginning of their senior year writing these essays, they don't seem remotely good?"</p>
<p>No. They could be polished up far more. They look like your first efforts that any high school student could write in an hour or two. They're sloppy. The ten-second-look-up-in-a-five-dollar-thesauraus "verbiage" you speak of isn't even all that great, especially with the glaring grammatical errors and stylistic idiosyncrasies that present themselves in your writing. In short, no.</p>
<p>and EVEN NOW... you're still not listening. NotReady4Purple just told you your teacher gave you a backhanded compliment, and you're already ready to argue him/her down to the end over the DEFINITION of the word that you are WRONG about?? I'm shaking my head.</p>
<p>A word can mean something entirely different in different context. I am just telling him that my teacher didn't mean it as excessive use of words. Just because I am correcting him because I was actually there, that means I am arguing? Oh common.</p>
<p>I rarely use a thesaurus. The only time I do is when I see myself repeating a word excessively.</p>
<p>Just submit an essay. Go for it. Best of luck (sincerely)</p>
<p>lanie22,</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>