<p>Remind me of the difference?</p>
<p>To be honest, I'm not even sure it's wrong for a school to reject on the basis of Tufts syndrome.</p>
<p>so today my guidance counselor told me if i wanted to go to Penn, i'd HAVE to apply ED. RD is too competitive. and penn has no qualms about admitting as many ED students as possible. what do you people that posted on the first page think of that?</p>
<p>With all due respect, I think your guidance counselor is a moron. ED: for those who know early on that they want to attend a school.</p>
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<p>To be honest, I'm not even sure it's wrong for a school to reject on the basis of Tufts syndrome.
The difference is between a policy of requiring all applicants, regardless of relative credentials, to demonstrate true interest in attending Penn (e.g., "Why Penn?" essays) as a condition of admission, and a policy of automatically and consistently rejecting all applicants the adcom believes will be admitted to more selective schools regardless of their professed interest in Penn. Penn clearly has the former policy. I haven't seen any evidence--apart from a few anecdotes--of the latter.</p>
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Penn limits its ED admissions to, at most, 50% of the incoming class, or a little over 1,000 ED acceptances. In the last couple of years, that has translated into a 28-29% ED acceptance rate. RD obviously is much more competitive--11% acceptance rate, and even lower for Wharton (about 9%). So while Penn does place a limit on the number of ED applicants it will accept, the overall odds are significantly better for ED applicants. That said, as mattwonder indicated, you shouldn't apply ED unless you're positive that Penn is your first choice.</p>
<p>so w/ an 11% admissions percentage, do i still have a shot (i'm applying to CAS, not wharton)?</p>
<p>I'd say you definitely have a shot (others here may have a more precise opinion). It's just that with ED, you'd have an even better shot.</p>
<p>thanks. anybody else?</p>
<p>what more do you want to hear? you have a great shot...now go work on those essays..you won't get in if you really f**k them up..</p>
<p>i guess i'm done. what sucks is this won't be over for another 9 months.</p>
<p>You're done with your essay? Ask your mama to read it! Ask your dada to read it! Ask snakes to read it! Ask criminals to read it! Ask the tree at your front yard to read it! Ask your a** to read it out loud and tell it to give you some feedbacks.</p>
<p>no i'm not done w/ my essay. i meant i'm done getting opinions and stuff. i pretty much know where i stand.
reach</p>
<p>alright so i went through the UPenn RD thread and i didn't see one black applicant w/ a SAT near mine and all of them got accepted. i know SAT isn't everything, but my EC's and GPA aren't bad either. so why is it that people r still telling me that penn is a reach? i always hear people talk about 2200+ being a safe score and i got that. i guess my question is...would u be surprised if i got rejected RD to CAS?</p>
<p>you're clearly fishing for compliments: Almost everyone in this thread has told you you're in. I don't know what else you want. I don't know how many times we have to tell you..START WORKING ON YOUR ESSAYS NOW...</p>
<p>Maybe what you're being told is: it's yours to lose, but it can be lost. So, to coin a phrase, start working on your essays now.:D</p>
<p>i don't know what the topics are but i've already got one essay done. and i'm not gonna start my 'why penn' essay until after i visit in september. and no i'm not fishing for comments. i've gotten enough of those. and not everyone has told me i'll get in. go back and look</p>
<p>Hmmm... I just realize that your school doesn't rank. That may be hard for UPenn to estimate your rank with your GPA. Try to boost your GPA.</p>
<p>this is really vague but compared to most people at my school, my gpa is amazing. i'm not cum laude (only 8/83 in my grade are), but i'm in the top 20%. again, i go to one of the best private schools in texas and probably the southwest though.</p>
<p>just to give you an idea of how competitive my school is:
"The most commonly attended colleges by graduates between 1997 and 2007 were [3] University of Texas at Austin, Stanford University, Emory University, Vanderbilt University, Northwestern University, Southern Methodist University, Duke University, University of Pennsylvania, Harvard University, Princeton University, University of Southern California and Yale University"
"Typical SAT range (25th–75th percentile) is 1320–1530"
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Mark%27s_School_of_Texas%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Mark%27s_School_of_Texas</a></p>
<p>it's funny how in the section, "The School Today", they refer to black students as students of color. wow. (i'm black by the way)</p>