<p>How much emphasis do D3 schools or ivies (soccer) put on grades (CMU,Columbia etc)? For D1 schools, I understand that grades do not have a major emphasis if you are a top athlete. But for these academically better schools, how much of an advantage do you have if you are a potential soccer recruit? </p>
<p>Also, does anyone know the average SAT, ACT, SAT II, scores for soccer players that attend these schools?</p>
<p>it really depends on the school, and the athlete, but for a non-future Olympian, best have grades and SATs that match or are close to the school average. For the NESCAC , the sport helps distinguish you from the literally thousand equally qualified individuals, not get you in if you are less qualified. Of course there are exceptions, but most of these kids have all the stats of the top achiever-it’s just there are 7 others for every spot, and the sport is the advantage that gets you accepted.!</p>
<p>agree with OldbatesieDoc 100%. when you’re talking this caliber of schools (the Ivys, Patiot Leagues for DI and the CMU, JHU, Williams Colleges, etc for DIII) competition for admission is fierce. Your admission competition in the applicant pool is brilliant – president of this, head of that, honor society for english, french, math, etc, (you get the point). </p>
<p>so many applicants are so qualified. Your sport, or your gift as a musician or artist, etc, is your hopeful “hook.”</p>
<p>so to answer your question: for the schools you used as an example, a lot. For others, maybe not so much. For the schools you used as an example, a coach can only do so much and if you don’t have the grades for that particular school, and aren’t even in the ballpark, you probably aren’t going to have a great chance. Are there exceptions? I’m sure there are, but like OldbatesieDoc stated: they’re likely for the athlete of olympian caliber, and even still that’s iffy. They want high sucess and graduation rates. They want to have some comfort level that whomever they admit can handle it all, because it won’t be easy – not even for the best students.</p>
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For the schools you’ve listed, academics will be the single biggest separator between a recruit that is pursued heavily or not.</p>
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Your athletic skills will be the single biggest separator between a recruit that is pursued heavily or not.</p>
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That is something you’ll need to run by the coach. The coach is only going to be interested in you if you meet his athletic requirements first.</p>
<p>It also depends upon the sport–the so-called “helmet” sports (football, hockey, lacrosse and even though it doesn’t use a helmet, basketball) are more open grade wise than crew, swimming, tennis, squash. </p>
<p>Even then at D3–esp UChi, JHU, NESCAC etc you had better be academically qualified–almost regardless of your sporting ability. Each year there are outstanding athletes who are told no by these schools bc they don’t have the candle power as measured by their records. Being a jock just is insufficient.</p>
<p>We are looking at Ivies for soccer, and the Academic Index is a key issue for my son. Academics must be a focus; you must have a rigorous academic program (all available Honors and AP classes, especially in your field of interest), you must have a high GPA (3.7 unweighted or better would be an absolute minimum), you must have high test scores (as low as 1800 if you are on the national youth team, but realistically 2000 or more), and you must have other ECs.</p>
<p>After all of that, if you play mostly one position (most soccer players do) let alone if you are single-footed, the match has to be there. A coach who just recruited five defenders last year will not be looking for another defender this year.</p>
<p>A much more obvious exception is being related to a big donor or famous person.</p>
<p>I don’t think ECs (the lack of) are a big issue with recruited athletes. My S had no ECs outside of his sport and no coach who recruited him mentioned the issue.</p>
<p>Isn’t Columbia D1?</p>
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<p>Yes.* The O/P said: “D3 schools or ivies .”</p>
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<li>The football team competes in Division I FCS.</li>
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