@Yakisoba is CC-Famous!
@pizzagirl is much more famous:
http://chronicle.com/article/College-Confidential-A-Field/138865/
LOL, and in that vein, don’t call her “special,” either.
from the DOJ website:
Sounds good to me. Hope the feds send a message, as they say.
Post #23, the people who took the exam would be punished, not these rich Chinese students right? Again they get off Scott free.
I don’t know all the legalities. Here’s the link from DOJ.
http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/fifteen-chinese-nationals-charged-fraud-scheme
I hope they would ban these people from ever set foot again in USA. In fact, I think colleges should not use SAT for internationals, too much cheating. Not just China, there are other countries in the news recently too.
@DrGoogle - My utterly unscientific gut tells me that having other, international tests, might create more, not less, opportunity for fraud and abuse. I detest the tests, in may ways, but they can detect suspicious patterns in a way that some foreign testing organizations might not be willing or able to. If every kid at a testing center in Mumbai or Shanghai submits an identical SAT, the College Board will probably pick it up. Would the overseas test overseers be as likely to do so?
I wasn’t not suggest another test. I agree with you, if there is any barrier, they will find way to overcome, like FIFA, which are other non- Asia countries. But maybe with a combination of barriers like Oxbridge admission. Part test, part interviews and perhaps part in person exams for internationals. Just throwing out ideas.
Post 28:
Yes. I have often suggested this. Live examinations separate the wheat from the chaff, and not just for internationals, but maybe as part of some final round Also, it would always have helped if CB hadn’t always kept to the same format, not to mention recycled tests as well. Transparency has its drawbacks.
I think they ought to put a fingerprint on each SAT administered internationally, much like some banks do when a con-customer wants to cash a check. Colleges could then confirm that the student who enrolls is the student who actually took the exam.
I think we should ban CB.
SAT fraud is only part of the fakery going on with some Chinese applicants. According to this 2012 ABC News report, Chinese admissions agencies will fake transcripts, essays, and recs for you too.
Presumably US colleges know about this now and have taken steps to verify information in the applications they receive.
^ despicable.
Past reports said some of these Chinese applicants didnt speak a word of english and virtually all the application materials were fake. They had to take a crash course in English over the summer. Disgusting.
Oh boy, why do they need to go to college. Corrupted money will secure a good live forever, well at least until the money runs out.
For $10,000 in China, you could easily get a perfectly forged Harvard transcript and diploma - why spend the $250K over 4 years??
We live in a top-20 university town and I assure you this is far from the norm. The vast majority of students are just like American kids , fun loving, exceptionally hard working, and really great people. Their families are upper-middle class by American standards and they live frugally like most students. The graduate students are often better prepared than American ones and do exceptional work.
My husband had success in the past hiring phD candidate who came from China but studied in the Midwest, but that was more than 10 years plus ago. I think there is more money now. The rich ones go to the most pricey universities and shall be nameless here.
When I took the CPA exam here in the US, I had to be fingerprinted not just when I entered the testing room but whenever I left to use the bathroom and returned. I think that the SAT testing organization should consider the ease of cheating and how it is affecting their brand. If (as it seems) anyone can walk into a testing center and claim to be someone else and take the test as that other person without any problems, that’s a pretty big flaw in the tests administered.
Between @Yakisoba and @Pizzagirl it seems like you have to be at least somewhat delicious to get a quote…
Maybe I should change my username to Macaroni…