international kid with low SATs and high SAT2s

<p>international student, fifteen years old (going to be 16 in march)</p>

<p>SAT: (it sucks!)
math=600
CR=550
W=570</p>

<p>SAT 2: (it rocks!)
math level 1 = 790
chemistry= 800
physics= 800</p>

<p>WOULD MY SAT2 SCORES MAKE UP FOR MY LOWER SAT SCORES IN THE ADMISSION PROCESS???</p>

<p>GPA:3.5</p>

<p>teacher and counselor evaluations: good ( i asked the teachers to rate it on a scale of 1-10 and the average was 7.5)</p>

<p>essays: not too spectacular but alright</p>

<p>extracurriculars: </p>

<p>junior engineers club
library/readers club
chess club
arts club</p>

<p>honors:</p>

<p>social science honor award
school science team
inter-house soccer 1st place award
school chess team
school prefect</p>

<p>class rank: in top 15%</p>

<p>applying to the engineering department, regular decision and financial aid</p>

<p>chance me for cornell</p>

<p>"WOULD MY SAT2 SCORES MAKE UP FOR MY LOWER SAT SCORES IN THE ADMISSION PROCESS???"</p>

<p>No, especially since you're international.</p>

<p>"applying to the engineering department, regular decision and financial aid"</p>

<p>Engineering looks for the highest SATs. Also, it's exceptionally difficult to get in as an international requesting financial aid</p>

<p>Your essays need to be top notch. </p>

<p>Also, you need to have high SAT Math skills. May be CR. </p>

<p>You also SHOULD take MathIIC SAT subject tests because math 1 is not worth it. Might as well take math2c if your good at math and there's a curve also.</p>

<p>Internationals have it rough.</p>

<p>yea, you are probably not getting in. I hope you have a safety school. Cornell is need blind for intls, but they dont give any need based aid to intl students (but they do give out about 12 scholarships per year to intls). So if you cant pay, you may have just wasted your app fee anyway. Regardless, you SATs are what really counts for intl students because class rank/gpa are too subjective UNLESS you went to the American school of xyz, then since the curricula are similar they can compare you. Yea, sorry but in my estimation, you have no chance.</p>

<p>wait, you're not even 16. what grade are you in!?</p>

<p>surprising that you'd get a 790 on SAT II math level 1 when you only have a 600 on the SAT math. they're pretty much on the same level in terms of difficulty with similar curves too. if you're applying to engineering, you need WAY better stats, especially since you're an international. plus, your GPA is kind of low.. regardless of your nationality. you're not applying to a fit-based school where low SATs/GPA can be excused for more "passion".</p>

<p>i had only 2-3 weeks to prepare for the SAT but had up to 2 months for the SAT2 and im turning 16 early this year. I applied to a few other schools as safety schools</p>

<p>Take the ACT. Most of Cornell's colleges will accept the ACT with the writing component plus the SAT IIs in lieu of the SAT I. In fact, CALS doesn't require any parts of the SAT, I or II, if you take the ACT with the writing component. That's what my daughter did. </p>

<p>Many of the elite colleges and unis will take the ACT with writing as a total substitute for the SAT, including Brown, Amherst, Swarthmore, Wesleyan, to name a few. The reason I think is because the SAT is an aptitude test and the ACT is not. The ACT is more like a subject matter test. If you add the writing component (some colleges don't even require the ACT writing component--just the ACT) to the ACT, you don't need any part of the SAT.</p>

<p>"Cornell is need blind for intls"</p>

<p>No, Cornell is not need blind for international students.</p>

<p>i can only register for the april ACT because the february dedline has past. I do not think that cornell would accept the april ACT but if they do so please tell me</p>

<p>The admission decision comes out at the end of March, so obviously not.</p>

<p>Did you take the TOEFL exam?</p>

<p>You should realize that your SAT Reasoning scores do not reflect a language level sufficient to excel at Cornell.</p>

<p>If you're not even 16 years old yet, why in hell do you want to go Cornell? Wait another year or two. Slow down. Get that Math SAT score up.</p>

<p>yea dude, ur only 15 and asking for a chance???</p>

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"Cornell is need blind for intls"</p>

<p>No, Cornell is not need blind for international students.

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<p>Yes, Cornell is need-blind for internationals. And yes, you should stop misinforming people. And yes, need-blind means not considering financial status while reviewing the application.</p>

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Admission decisions are need-blind. We do not deny students based on their financial circumstances. </p>

<p>Cornell University has some limited funding for undergraduate international students. About two or three hundred accepted students apply for this aid, and we can fund about 15-20 new international students each year. We offer both full and partial awards, depending upon need. Criteria for selection include outstanding academic performance, unusual talent or practical experience related to the field of study, potential to contribute to the campus community in other ways, and geographic diversity. We encourage strong students to apply but, because of limited funding and keen competition, to apply to other colleges and universities offering aid as well. For those with access to the Internet, following is a web address giving further information on financial aid for international students at American Universities: eduPASS:</a> The SmartStudent Guide to Studying in the USA. Cornell’s Web site is at Cornell</a> University Undergraduate Admissions Office - WELCOME

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<p>international school can start earlier than here. a friend of mine is 14 and hes half done with 11th grade... </p>

<p>but anyway i didnt know they gave 790s for math IC haha. i dont think your sat II will make up for sat I so take it again or something</p>

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Yes, Cornell is need-blind for internationals. And yes, you should stop misinforming people. And yes, need-blind means not considering financial status while reviewing the application.

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<p>Unless Cornell has made any changes regarding internationals in its financial aid program since last February, it is you, not I, who is misinforming others. According to an article written in February 2008 in the Daily Pennsylvanian:</p>

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With Dartmouth College's announcement last month that they would extend need-blind admissions to international students, Penn now stands in the minority of Ivy League schools without such a financial-aid commitment.</p>

<p>Cornell and Columbia Universities are the only other Ivies that have not made the financial leap.

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<p>Aid</a> for internationals lags | w/ Interactive Feature - News</p>

<p>Clearly, Penn, Cornell, and Columbia are the three Ivies that do not practice need-blind admissions for international students outside of North America.
Therefore, no, Cornell is not need-blind for internationals outside of North America. And yes, need-blind means not considering financial status while reviewing the application. And yes, you should stop misinforming people.</p>

<p>Get your facts straight. Do you even go to Cornell?</p>

<p>Cornell is not need-blind for internationals. I think Brown is another one too, in addition to Penn, Columbia.</p>

<p>However, Cornell, Columbia and Penn are need-blind to Mexicans and Canadians.</p>

<p>Brown on the other hand, has the crappiest financial aid policy of all Ivy Leauge. It is not need-blind to ALL internationals, and that include Canadians and Mexicans.</p>

<p>International students: Cornell University maintains only a very limited program of financial assistance for international students who are not citizens of the U.S., Canada or Mexico. Those who receive funds bring exceptional academic records and unusual potential to contribute to the Cornell community in other ways. This information is not intended to discourage you from applying, but to give you a realistic understanding of the chances for receiving aid.</p>

<p>Cornell</a> University Undergraduate Admissions Office - HOW TO APPLY</p>

<p>Here is the screenshot of the email I got from financial aid office of Cornell, as a reply on a question "will I be denied admission, if I do not demonstrate enough fund sources to pay for the university as an international student?". So yes, they are need-blind for internationals. </p>

<p><a href="http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/3776/55039761od5.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/3776/55039761od5.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I do not need to attend Cornell, to know about the policies. Contacting the appropriate office is more than enough.</p>

<p>Admissions is not need-blind for internationals. You just contradicted your own claim by posting that image. Read the second paragraph regarding financial aid for internationals.</p>

<p>"We can fund 15-20 students" each year. Internationals students applying for financial aid must NOT apply under early decision.</p>

<p>Everyone, please stop misinforming others. As an international student, I can say, with research, that Cornell is not need-blind toward internationals (non-Canadian and non-Mexican). Thank you (God these misinformers really **** me off.)</p>

<p>Eligible</a> Citizenship Status</p>

<p>I think Brown Man got it right.</p>

<p>I think your need-blind definition needs to be changed a little bit. Here is what Cornell does when reviewing applicants applying for aid. First, they disregard whether or not you're applying for aid. In other words, admission officers fit the definition of "need-blind" you proposed. However, after determining all internationals' decisions. They would gather all of the admitted internationals together and determine who will receive financial aid and deny/waitlist the rest.</p>

<p>It does not make sense for the university to ignore the budget it has for internationals and accept all of them, and refuse to offer aid to some, forcing them to pay. It is illogical, and irresponsible; it pulls down its yield, and it forms a dilemma to the parents of the accepted students.</p>

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And yes, you should stop misinforming people.

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<p>Alone, please stop that hubris and do research on your own. Thank you very much. Have a nice day.</p>