<p>Hi everyone !
I live outside of the USA .
I plan on Studying a BA in English from SDSU or A CSU and then maybe going to law school .
I have a few questions I would like somebody to answer :
1 ) what are the requirements for the BA in english from SDSU and CSU for an International student ? will i have to take the SAT or just the TOEFL ?
2 ) Will I need to take somekind of math test before entering ?
3 ) I saw on the courses list that there is a course : GE math . how hard is that ?
( I despise math . ) and how hard all the other GE calsses ? GE Life sciences , GE physical sciences etc ( I also HATE physics, chemistry , anything with numbers and abtractions .
4 ) what are the chances of being accepted to a top - tier law school with a BA in english from SDSU or any of the CSU's ? do they look down on those institutions ?</p>
<p>1) You will need to take the SAT or the ACT to be competitive for the school. The TOEFL will depend on the schools requirements for exemption.</p>
<p>2) The math placement test will depend on your SAT test score, if you receive a 550 or higher you will not need to take the placement test. There are more ways to get an exemption as well.</p>
<p>3)GE math is not a class, it is a suggestion on the flow chart when to take a college level math or statistics course. The same goes for the sciences. </p>
<p>4)If you have an excellent GPA, say 3.9 or better, and an excellent LSAT, 177-180, I would say you have a very good chance at a top tier law school. A 3.0 and a 150, not so much.</p>
<p>thanks for the reply jakd59 but I have further questions :
1 ) assuming I will need to take those tests , what is the difference between the SAT and ACT . is there a " better " one ? can they be taken outside of the USA ?
2 ) what do you mean it’s part of the " flow chart " . is it a course I will need to take or not ? In general from your knowledge , how hard is the math required in the BA in English in SDSU , CSU or any other college for that matter ( public one ) ?
I hate math - the most I know in algebra is equation like this :
2x+4y= 36
3x+Y = 2
find x , and y
. this is my knowledge in math . will it be more than that ?
what is the physics required in the BA English , the chemistry …etc
in those subjects I don’t know scratch .
3 ) If I do not go into law school , what jobs can I work with in the USA with a BA in English? I do not want to be a journalist , or a writer . is law the only option ?</p>
<p>I know very little about the ACT for international students but the SAT can be taken outside the US. Do you have an adviser at your school that can help you with that? You can also go to [College</a> Admissions - SAT - University & College Search Tool](<a href=“http://www.collegeboard.org%5DCollege”>http://www.collegeboard.org) and familiarize yourself with the SAT and the international locations.</p>
<p>Here is a link to the flowchart for an English major at SDSU.
<a href=“https://sunspot.sdsu.edu/pubred/!mymap.disp[/url]”>https://sunspot.sdsu.edu/pubred/!mymap.disp</a>
A flowchart is a recommended plan to help you graduate on time.
The following is a link to the admissions page for undergraduates at SDSU.
[San</a> Diego State University | Admissions](<a href=“First-Year Students | SDSU”>First-Year Students | SDSU)
These are the minimum qualifications for admission to SDSU
AG SUBJECT YEARS SPECIFICATIONS
B English 4 years required Literature and/or composition courses are acceptable
C Mathematics 3 years required;
4 recommended Courses acceptable include algebra I, algebra II, geometry, and other advanced courses that require algebra and geometry as prerequisites. Computer programming courses do not fulfill the math requirements.
A Social Science 2 years required Must include one year of U.S. history and government.
D Laboratory Science 2 years required; 3 recommended Must include one year of biology and one year of physical science. Both must have a laboratory component.
E Foreign Language 2 years required Must be the same language. (Subject to waiver for applicants demonstrating equivalent competence.)
F Visual and Performing Arts 1 year required Must be a year-long visual and performing arts course in a single area. Visual art, dance, drama/theatre, or music.
G Electives 1 year required College preparatory courses selected from English, advanced mathematics, social studies, history, laboratory science, agriculture, and foreign language. Copied from the SDSU website.</p>
<p>I have a link for international students on the CSU mentor. Spend some time reading all of the information on all of the tabs. The CSU mentor is the sight that you will use to apply to the Cal states, it is very informative, please look into it.
<a href=“Cal State Apply | CSU”>Cal State Apply | CSU;
<p>These links should answer most or all of your questions.</p>
<p>you don’t need to take the SAT or the ACT as an international student…
they don’t mention it … if so will I need to take a test prior to entering college ? a math test ? if so what is the level of it ? </p>
<p>I did not quite understand . so you have to take math to finish with a BA in English ?
there’s no way around it ?</p>
<p>As I mentioned in my first post, you will need to take one of those tests to be competitive for admission. The admission for SDSU is a straight formula, GPA multiplied by by 800, plus your critical reading and math score only on your SAT test. If you opt out of taking the test your admission index will not be high enough to grant you entrance. The admission index for the out of local area students is over 4000. A 4.0 X 800=3200. I will repeat, OVER 4000. SDSU gets over 60,000 applications from very qualified students each year.</p>
<p>I do not think you spent enough time going over the material I linked you to. </p>
<p>You will not be able to graduate from a California state university without math and science classes. You will need a college level math class or a college level quantitative reasoning/statistics class. You will also need life science and a physical science classes to graduate.</p>
<p>GE = general education. It’s math and science to help you understand the world around you. The level requires you to have basic high school math skills (Algebra 1 and Geometry). These classes are NOT the same as for science majors. Usually if you look at the catalog, you’ll see “does not count toward the Biology/math/physics major”</p>
<p>Typically, international students don’t attend law school in the US since laws are different depending on country! However, if you had grades in the 3.8 range and excellent LSAT scores, you could apply to a Top Tier law school… but you’d need to be able to pay all costs. Then, you probably couldn’t find work unless you specialized in an area where you can use your knowledge of your current country’s language& culture. Easy if it’s China, India, Japan, South Africa, Kenya, a European country, Brazil, or Mexico. Not so easy if it’s Turkhmenistan or Uganda, simply because there isn’t as much business, as many contracts, and as many companies involved. Speaking several languages will be useful and is basically your only option if you want to find a job. Right now, 2/3 law school graduates are not employed in the field of law or are unemployed…</p>
<p>In addition to English, Philosophy and Political Science are good majors for Law School.</p>
<p>It’s very difficult to have a work permit with a Bachelor degree. American law is very strict compared to, say, Canada’s. Typically, those few work permits are reserved for students with Science, Engineering, or Tech (STEM) degrees. With a degree in English it would be almost impossible to secure a work permit. You could go on to grad school but English grad school is mostly all Theory based and has nothing to do with reading lots of books and writing a lot.</p>
<p>If you speak a foreign language in addition to your native language, you may want to work on those since it may be useful to you in the US and in your home country.
What do you intend to do with your English degree once you go back home?</p>
<p>does the GE math will get to Calculus ?
will they teach calculus there ?
or only algebra and geometry ? </p>
<p>and do you have to prepare somekind of written report / projecy to graduate with a BA or it’s only tests ?</p>
<p>No, the GE math typically only requires basic math and some algebra. You’ll need to look at each college’s offerings; some colleges require straight math (pre algebra+algebra depending on how well you do on a test) other colleges have special classes for Humanities majors, such as Geometry in Islamic Art or Demography.
Each class is different but typically your grade will be tests + projects or lab or research papers + homework. At small/private colleges, participation counts a lot (ie, whether you have interesting things to contribute to the discussion) but at large universities, since many classes have 40+ or even 100+ students, you can’t participate and the professor doesn’t know your name so you don’t get a participation grade, or only your TA (teaching assistant) would grade you for participation.
On the blog “the college solution”, there are very useful posts about the difference between a small university and a large one, etc. You should look at them.</p>
<p>what about finance …
Is it better in say csulb or San Diego state ?
and I see you need calculus there … Business calculus … How hard is that compared to calculus 1,2 or the economics calculus .
And which is harder economics or finance ? Which major I mean</p>
<p>It’s the same, but with different applications.
It depends on what you’d like to do. </p>
<p>If you like CSULB and SDSU apply to both. You should have two safeties (schools that you like, are sure you can get into, and can afford), 3-5 matches (schools you’re reasonably sure you can get into), and as many reaches as you wish or can afford.
You shouldn’t just apply to one school. You apply to a variety of schools then they choose whether they admit you or not then they decide which one is the best “fit” for you.</p>
<p>If you wish to avoid math yet study/ work in business, what about accounting? However it requires to be very detail oriented and meticulous. It requires an extra year for certification but typically there are jobs in that field.
Finance is math+ economics…</p>