<p>That came out wrong. The admissions officers at MIT would, of course, realize that discovery is something significant, but they do not necessarily have to know what exactly it all means. Same thing with HFs and PEs. They know it's something, but I don't think they have to know exactly what. </p>
<p>Who said anything about discriminating against kids with experience? I merely said that this particular school prefers when kids do not have experience. They don't reject kids for having it. </p>
<p>Now this is just getting to be stupid. This is my final word.</p>
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<p>Whats your source for this? It probably doesn't matter as long as leadership experience is shown in an applicants activities. I would highly, highly doubt that preference is given to kids without any experience. Nor am I saying that those with experience gets any preference either. Its essentially a non factor and aking to any other activity or EC someone may be involved in.</p>
<p>My source would be my regional rep from that school. And I didn't say preference is given to kids without experience! I said they prefer the kids without experience because it's easier to train them with a clean slate rather than having to fix what they already know. Maybe my use of pronouns was confusing. The they I was referring to would be the professors at said school.</p>
<p>Funny thing is when they go to the work place the employers will spend 6 months trying to get all the useless information not applicable to the real world, taught by the profs, out of their newly recruited employees. Talk about a chain of reprogramming minds haha.</p>
<p>What do you mean "gotcha?" There is nothing to "get" from me. I am merely repeating what was told to me by a business school representative that visited my school. Go "get" that representative.</p>
<p>I said gotcha because now I understand your pronoun usage which would require some improvement as no where in the post where you first refer to the said phenomenon did you mention that the "they" was the professors.</p>
<p>I know, I always forget that when I'm talking to people they are not capable of understanding my entire thoughts, and then I leave out vital information, such as the antecedents to pronouns. Sorry for the confusion.</p>
<p>Excel, we already got in. We don't care enough to pick up a phone and call. Our caring only goes so far as arguing senselessly with total strangers over the internet.</p>
<p>Actually, I shall be applying this fall. However, this is not that crucial of a matter to actually call up the adcom (my business partner, heading to W this fall, is capable of assisting me in such trivial matters).</p>
<p>Oh, just kidding I thought you were already in. In that case, I already got in and don't care enough to pick up a phone and call. My caring only goes as far as arguing senselessly with applicants who give the impression that they got in. Said applicants are still total strangers over the internet.</p>
<p>(More proof of my inability to use pronouns)</p>
<p>How would getting in internship be something that hurts you in the admissions process? Maybe I'm not understanding this correctly, but it seems to me if someone is interested in pursuing a career in business then it would only be logical to find an internship where he or she could expore that interest. Isn't getting an internship in hopes of attending business school similar to finding a research opportunity in hopes of pursuing a science-related career?</p>
<p>Internships dont hurt..but I don't see how interning at a PE firm (even blackstone) is better than interning at some run of the mill finance company..or even in a commercial bank..</p>
<p>the only way to get yourself into a PE/LBO/many HFs in high school is to have connections with the firm. So I'd say the fact that you have gone out and gotten an internship is the key part, where that internship is of secondary importance..if its important at all. </p>
<p>I mean seriously..you think adcoms cant figure out that the only reason you're (rhetorical you're, im not addressing anyone) at Blackstone is because daddy's a VP at goldman and he knows a guy?..</p>
<p>I didn't have any connections and I intern at a trading firm. </p>
<p>Plus just because they had connections doesn't mean that their internship should have less weight. Working at a PE is just simply a lot more prestigious and carries more weight. Regardless of connections its still difficult to land an internship in those places anyways. Its not just simply dependent on who your daddy knows.</p>
<p>There have been a number of things said in these posts that I feel the need to clarify.</p>
<p>1) “A Wharton admissions counselor not knowing what an ibank, HF or PE is would be very surprising to say the least. (A school specific adcom reviews the app along with the regional representative).”</p>
<p>First, there is no such thing as a “Wharton admissions counselor.” The same Regional Director will read the applications for all four schools from his or her region. While there is a representative from Wharton on the admissions committee, this person does not read the application. Therefore it is extremely likely that the person reading your application does not know what a HF is or what PE is or know what an investment banker does. </p>
<p>2) “Wharton is the epitome of a pre-professional school. The gatekeepers of such a school would most likely know what these institutions are as the goal of Wharton is to feed those industries with its graduates.”</p>
<p>The “gatekeepers” are the Regional Directors (not Wharton people), and they are the “gatekeepers” of all four undergraduate schools, not just Wharton. It is not their job to know what various job areas within Finance (or any area of business) are just because Penn happens to have a great business school. More importantly, the “goal of Wharton” is NOT to feed the finance industry with its graduates. That is actually an extremely narrow (and incorrect) view of the school and its educational mission. </p>
<p>3) “They [admissions officers] of course don't understand the exact intricate details of it but they probably know how difficult it is to get an internship at a place like HFs and PEs considering their own students have to cross hell to get those positions. That makes that part of the resume all the more polished.”</p>
<p>On the contrary, I don’t think that an admissions officer knows how difficult it is to get an internship at HFs or PEs. They do not know that current Wharton students have to “cross hell” to get to those positions. Their job isn’t to know what specific internships Wharton students get or how difficult it is to get a particular internship. These are things that Career Services counselors are more knowledgeable about. </p>
<p>4) No one is saying that having an internship can hurt you – my point is that landing a high school internship in a specific area of finance that might impress you or people in the industry might not carry the same weight with an admissions officer because they do not necessarily know the ins and outs of business (nor is it their job to).</p>
<p>5) On a side note, the academic advisors and career counselors don’t even encourage Wharton freshmen to seek internships as we feel they are more appropriate for upperclassmen.</p>
<p>I was under the the impression that the regional representative sits down with the head of admissions and a school specific representative and presents the various applications and in a sense "pitches" for them. Isn't this correct? (This was what I learnt from both a Penn presentation as well as from a few posters on this forum).</p>