<p>“You’re dumb”? Not a personal attack? “What guy says fluff”… Do you really stick by stereotypes for every single type of person, or is that you just talking out of your *** again? (Is that better for you?) I have black relatives and friends, think I know plenty of “black culture”… not to mention I’ve never referenced “black culture” (unless you consider speaking of a joke african-american comedians commonly make plus one purposefully sarcastic comment “culture”). I come out of no where? I’ve been here for 3 years, who are you?</p>
<p>I never referred to other nations and slavery, why should you? Don’t start on the affirmative action crap. Not all african-americans work long hours for low wages in the hood, like you seem to think. Selling drugs and being in a gang is much easier to people in their situation than attending school. Maybe if people in the hood weren’t so focused on their reputation and trying to make a quick buck, many of them wouldn’t wind up working minimum wage jobs or going to jail? Ever heard of “trailer trash”… I’m sure you have as I’m sure you’ve made fun of those “inbred rednecks”. They are in the same situation as your “hood” people. And, guess what their secret to failure is? Their laziness and lack of drive. People aren’t so different at all.</p>
<p>^^^ Thank you. I have black relatives and friends. Well, that sums it up. You know black culture because you know black people. Ask any one of them. That is the stereotype that almost all comedians use. </p>
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<p>Wow. Calling you dumb isn’t a personal attack. Try being called a n*gger, then that’s a personal attack. You seriously need to seek some counseling if you’re that “emotional.” Second of all, seriously what guy says fluff?? Black culture is NOT having black friends or knowing black people. Black culture is knowing our roots and background, knowing how we’ve progressed and changed over the years, and overall, knowing how a lot of us live. You don’t know that. You just “have friends and family.” I have Indian friends, but I won’t say I know their culture. Unless you have been in their position and seen something from their eyes, then no, you don’t know black culture. Now, who am I? I’m a 17 year old female that made it out of the hood thanks to God. I didn’t have to grow up there. I never said that ALL black people were there or that ALL black people had low paying jobs, <a href=“mailto:dumb@ss”>dumb@ss</a>. If you read what I wrote instead of what you wanted me to write, you’d get a lot further. You’re a grown @ss 20 year old man trying to tell a black person that they don’t know what black culture is. That’s like telling a doctor how to treat you.
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<p>Have you ever even BEEN to the hood? You did the complete opposite of me. I made fun of a stereotype to lighten the air. You actually believe it and will probably pull out stats out your @ss to “prove” it. So you’re telling me, 6 people got killed in one household in the hood by a family friend b/c they were harboring drugs in their low-income home? Oh, no, no. The grandmother was in a gang, so she had to be killed. NO ONE in the house did anything. They were at the wrong place at the wrong time. The time is ALWAYS wrong. You’re telling me that a 12 year old girl is being stalked by 2 men b/c she’s too focused on her reputation? You’re telling me that b/c the child wants to become a doctor and save people’s lives that she’s NOT motivated. Yeah, that same little girl got shot in the eye for being motivated. Motivated not to bother them b/c she wants a better future. You can’t tell me anything. You haven’t been in my shoes or know what I know. You act like ALL black people choose to be in the hood. Notice how I said “you act.” I never said you said. I don’t put words in your mouth as you have done to me. My uncle stayed in the ghetto b/c that was all he could afford for the time being. It didn’t stop him from going to school and starting a business with his wife, but what people like you don’t know is, people in the hood ARE motivated. The most talented people you will ever meet come from the worse situations. Tyler Perry was homeless before he became the man he was today. Oprah Winfrey didn’t grow up rich at all. People in the hood have hopes and dreams, but everyday life is a struggle for a lot of them. So don’t tell me that they’re not motivated b/c of what you see on TV. Take your dumb@ss to the real hood and actually live with them, don’t just drive through. Live with them before you can say how they live and what they do. You don’t know anything about a hood you’ve never been in. *All of these stories took place in my “hood.” I have stories for days. Tell me why a young man gets shot down at 16. He was pumping gas after hanging out with friends and gets shot by a 15 year old. Why? B/c of a fight that never happened. That’s right. Adults broke up a fight at a local teen spot, and it was supposed to be squashed from there. The 16 year old wasn’t even in the fight. He was an innocent by-stander. So you’re telling me that this star athlete with phenomenal grades deserved to die? He was going places. A 15 year old with a gun is not right at all. He wasn’t in a gang, but he wasn’t hanging out with the right crowd. Both teens lost their lives. One to violence and one to jail. One was motivated, the other wanted to smoke weed (yes, he did and I do know this for a fact). I’m not saying EVERYONE in the hood is motivated, but a lot of people WANT to get out but CAN’T. I have friends stuck there. They go to school but can’t get past high school due to financial situations, deaths, anything that could possibly go wrong in their lives’ does. It’s not always their fault. You can’t speak for people you have not a clue about. I’ve lived there, I know the people, I know their situations, I was in that same situation. You can’t tell me that your “black friends and relatives” defense can go against something I have actually experienced. If you had been to the hood or even remotely near it, you would’ve come up with something much better than that BS. Don’t judge what you don’t know.</p>
<p>As for “inbred rednecks,” my own grandpa makes fun of them b/c that’s how his family is with stuff like that, they just joke. He’s white, and although he’s rich, he has family members that are like that. Racist, redneck, w/e you wanna label it. They’re not anything like you said. They live in a trailer park b/c they want to live there. They aren’t lazy at all, and if they’re living their life the way they want to, where’s the lack of motivation? </p>
<p>Congrats, dummy, you’ve managed to stereotype TWO groups of people! So go cry a river b/c I have personally attacked you as much as I possibly could. I could care less about what you have to say or how you say it b/c ignorance is synonymous with gstein. This discussion b/w me and you is over. You have not proven anything. You took a joke and made it something bigger than what it was. No one else had an issue b/c they understood it was A JOKE which is something that RIDICULES something else. You’re dismissed now, and I’m done, so whatever you say from this point will be ignored b/c ignorance breeds ignorance so I choose to avoid it after fighting it for so long.</p>
<p>@TA3021, Ann Coulter cracks me up. It’s weird b/c she’s not an ugly, haggard woman that you’d expect her to be based off her comments. She’s actually pretty, but it’s like she hates everything. If someone wants to call me pinko to substitute for sissy, then I’d just laugh at them. Yeah, I wouldn’t look for the blogs either. People start getting into random things and can’t back up what they say, so they make up stuff.</p>
<p>I don’t think AllAmerican should be attacked for liking white men. It’s not a matter of racism, but I think that what happened is you had a past guy you liked or a past boyfriend who was just happened to be white. You are attracted to guys who remind you of that guy. That’s fine and all, just make sure you don’t limit your options by limiting yourself to one race or one type of guy. If you do, you might end up missing out on something better.</p>
<p>^^^ Agreed, but I mean it’s fine and dandy that she likes white guys, but I’m just concerned that she’ll get hurt. She wants their acceptance and approval. It seems like she has low self-confidence or doesn’t believe in herself b/c you don’t need ANY man’s approval. Be happy with who you are b/c as soon as you give anyone that upperhand, they will take advantage of it (not all people but there are some cruel people out there). She needs self-confidence before she dates any guy.</p>
<p>BeautifulNerd, when you keep repeating “What guy says ‘fluff’?” you are implying that he is not masculine for using that particular word. You cannot then claim not to have made any personal attacks.</p>
<p>And yes, calling someone dumb is the essence of a personal attack.</p>
<p>When was AllAmerican “attacked?”
And when was racism brought into her desire for a white man? We just pointed out that she appears to have low self-esteem and is seeking approval from the wrong place. How racism and attacks came from that is beyond me.</p>
<p>I mean, I have NEVER heard a man OR woman use the word. I’d be weirded out just to hear a girl say it unless she’s a 6 year old playing with her dog named Fluff or Fluffy, but just fluff? It’s awkward. </p>
<p>I guess it’s a personal attack toward the sensitive. I’m not as sensitive as he is <em>obviously</em> so if it’s a personal attack to you guys, then I wouldn’t know. I’m not sensitive when people challenge my intelligence b/c I know what I’m capable of, and I’ve been belittled as a black female. It’s called building a thick skin.</p>
<p>@ Plattsburgh- I don’t know when she was attacked. I don’t think you or I attacked her, we just pretty much said don’t get set up for failure. Looking for acceptance and approval is not good for a relationship b/c she’ll do w/e it takes for that approval. It’s only gonna get her hurt.</p>
<p>^^^ Yeah. She just wanted to know if she’d meet some good white guys. That’s no problem with me. I just don’t want her to get hurt in the process b/c seeking approval is not good esp. with relationships.</p>
<p>Oh, I just remembered this: last night, I looked up about Dr. Phil’s lack of a license to practice psychology - and it turns out his show is not considered practicing psychology but falls into entertainment, which makes sense.</p>
<p>However, I remember this elderly couple coming on the show in tears because their daughter had anorexia, was 50 or so pounds, and on the verge of death and sought help from Dr. Phil.
I’d be a little tiffed if my problems, particularly life-threatening ones, served as mass entertainment.</p>
<p>Especially considering these people are hanging on to his every word and living their life by whatever he tells them to do.</p>
<p>^^^ I agree b/c then everyone will know your business…it’s like this rapper’s wife had cancer, and this really loud and obnoxious radio show host somehow found out and aired it out to NYC. NO ONE knew, not even his wife’s family. They didn’t want anyone to know. So I felt bad for her. </p>
<p>I love how he released weight loss products and a weight loss book a few years ago. Has he looked in the mirror? And the fact that his book became an NY Times Bestseller… did nobody realize that he wasn’t exactly in a position to hand out weight loss advice?</p>
<p>Lol. No one cares; he’s like the Hitler of TV. He has so many people coming to him, but he’s not doing anything that a little common sense wouldn’t help do.</p>
<p>Actually, there is no singular “black culture.”</p>
<p>Aside from the urban, inner city “black culture”, there is the Southern black culture (differs from region to region), as well as the black “bourgeoisie” culture, varying cultures for black from Africa and the Caribbean, etc.</p>
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<p>“Preferences” are largely dictated by society and what the media portrays.</p>
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<p>True, but a lot of black parents don’t want their kids marrying white either.</p>
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<p>In most of Asia, for centuries creamy/pale skin for women is highly prized since it denotes a higher social economic class (much like Europe before the industrial revolution).</p>
<p>Asian-Americans (those born here) are no different from the rest of American society and tend to go tanning/get the “bronzed” look.</p>
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<p>That’s ethnicity and not necessarily racial stereotypes (just as there are blacks from Nigeria, Ivory Coast, Uganda, Dominican Republic, Haiti, etc. here).</p>
<p>White women (and men as well) don’t really have general stereotypes that apply to them all.</p>
<p>While there are white stereotypes like the soccer mom, the redneck, the latte drinking West Coast liberal, the frat-boy, the cheerleader, the girl next door, farmer’s daughter, surfer dude, Long Island meathead, etc. - minorities, otoh, tend to get stereotyped as a whole.</p>
<p>For instance, an Asian male can be a meathead, West Coast liberal, frat-boy, surfer-dude, etc. but they tend to be stereotyped as (1) geek/nerd, (2) martial artist and (3) “wise” old man and (4) gang member (Yakuza/Triad).</p>
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<p>These stereotypes are nothing more than [false] justifications that people use to make them feel better about their “preferences.”</p>
<p>For instance, WMs w/ an Asian fetish talk about how WFs are fat/fugly, too masculine, spoiled, materialistic, non-nurturing, too much into feminism, etc. while AFs are sweet, not materialistic, feminine, catering to the male, etc.</p>
<p>Otoh, AMs who only date WFs say that AFs are spoiled, b!tchy, materialistic, prone to temper tantrums, etc. and that WFs are sweet, warm, have pleasant personalities, not materialistic, more feminine, etc.</p>
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<p>Actually, there is also the stereotype that WFs are placed on a pedestal and that BMs will give them more “slack” then BFs.</p>
<p>In conjunction, there are significantly more educated BFs competing for a smaller pool of educated BMs, so BMs know they can get away w/ a lot more w/ BFs.</p>
<p>The only populations that really date interracially much are white males and Asian females. Blacks date each other. Indians date each other almost exclusively. Asian males date Asian females. White females date white males, and occasionally black and Hispanic males.</p>
<p>The black and Indian student populations seem less likely to date interracially.</p>
<p>well i think racist people are a little funny, but you know the saying, “whoever you hate will end up in your family?” well my mother is caribbean descent and was not too fond of her daughters (my sister and i), dating white men. however, my sister has been with her white bf for 5 years and my mother realized that love is love, and that he is generally just a good person that loves her daughter. so she got over her racist tendency and accepted him in our family. people are people and sadly not enough people realize that we all look the same on the inside.</p>