<p>I am sure all you experienced CCers know the answer for this: do internationals compete in the international pool? </p>
<p>Mock SAT question:</p>
<p>If I am an international, am I most likely to compete head-on with applicants
A. from my country
B. from my region/continent
C. from the rest of the world outside US and Canada
D. from the world, regardless of nationality
E. hard to say; different universities consider int'l apps differently</p>
<p>Is the entry bar raised for int'ls? Are the stats and quality of the accepted int'l pool higher than that of the non-int'l pool? If so, even in "need-blind" schools?</p>
<p>Hypothetically assume, 2 clones, exact same test scores, GPA, ECs, personality, character and even essays (you get what I mean).....compete for the very last place of that school, but one was raised from Vietnam, the other from US. Does that US citizen get that last place? Or is the Vietnamese accepted, because minority status is being 'considered'? Or does the policy differ in different universities?</p>
<p>Does a university consciously cap the % of int'l acceptance (say if last year's was 8%, that uni will try to keep this year's percentage close to that), even if it means rejecting students it would otherwise accept? </p>
<p>I think the US guy would win. let us not forget that we are talikng here about US univs.
each univ/college has its own policy, but intls definetly get in way harder than US citizens, EVEN at the need-blind ones. usually intls compete with intls, and many times with ppl from their own country. there are exceptions( such as Romanians at Princeton :D) and obviusly if the school has to excellent candidates from the same country they're not going to reject them because of this, but otherwise chances are slim.
most of the times schools stick to their percentage of admitted intls. dunno if there are schools with a percent larger than 10/11 % of intls.</p>
<p>as you can see competition is fierce but the only things left for you is to give it your best, to hope and to pray :p</p>
<p>Mostly the competition is among ppl from the own country if the applicant pool is above 250 .. from the same country ...if a lesser knwn country ..then among the intels/./</p>
<p>But never along with US citizens .. coz there is an intl. cap on no. of students..</p>
<p>My principal went to a conference over the weekend and asked around about the whole US admissions thing just because he was quite embarrased when he didn't know what to do when I gave him the forms :(</p>
<p>In AUs, it seems that many of the more "elite" high schools like Geelong Grammar, Scotch College, North Sydney regularly send students to the top 25 uni's in the US as well as Oxford and Cambridge.</p>
<p>What is interesting is that he was told that there was a pattern where they not only compare you to your school but also to the whole education system in the country. They said that because there was very clear correlation between high percentiles and admit rates. Thats no surprise. What is surprising was that there were roughly the same number of admits each year even though the applicant numbers varied greatly. Some years there were only a handful, other several hundred. Although there is no official quota- they do limit the numbers to a certain extent.</p>
<p>that stinks!!!! :( I've lived in the US for 7 years and applied for greencard for 6 years but still haven't gotten it - damn the bureau of immigrations!! >:(</p>
<p>chanchito, that's not true. I PMed Northstarmom, a Harvard interviewer and she said they go by citizenship and not by location of high-school etc.</p>
<p>Hey kjoodles...its funny how geelong grammar always send a lot of ppl to the US...cuz the ppl there arent that smart..i suppose they have a lot of US citizens who would apply there anyway. at my school...usually only one people everyone few years apply overseas...heh</p>
<p>Its kinda weird here cauz because it's Tasmania, we have a Rhodes scholar thing each year. Our school does quite well- one of our guys who graduated a few years ago from my school got it this year. Normally thats the only route people take to go out of the country for study unless they were from somewhere else originally!</p>
<p>I wish I live in a real city! (Then I wouldn't be the only one that has ambitions to study somewhere else)</p>
<p>Best friend, '05 senior of my school in Romania. Sudanese parents, brothers, relatives, ancestry, etc... BUT born in Connecticut. :o SOOO lucky. So for financial aid, she used her American citizenship, kept her American password, but for terms of nationality, she identifed herself as Sudanese.</p>
<p>She got into Carleton with great aid, as well as Wesleyan Uni, Clark, Rochester, Macalester, Juniata and Johns Hopkins. To my eyes, she got the best of both worlds. Able to apply to school need-blind for American citizens/PR, and able to claim diversity "hooks". <em>sniffles</em> My children shall be born in the US! I promise you!</p>