<p>is 31 good enough for wharton ED??
assuming other components of my application are great</p>
<p>Nothing is ever good enough at a school like Wharton. I know a kid who had a 3.96 (10 AP’s throughout high school), stellar EC’s, and a 2390. He was rejected. The point is, you can never know if any one factor will be “good enough”.</p>
<p>There is no “GOOD ENOUGH” score for UPenn. One of my acquaintance got through UPenn with 30 ACT (I am not sure if it was Wharton). They have a very holistic approach to admissions. Write great essays, establish your passion and you should be fine.</p>
<p>i know, i meant like
is it gonna be a “NO” factor</p>
<p>I’m applying to Upenn ED with a 31 ACT so we’re on the same boat!</p>
<p>Check out this video with Mr. Furda – it’s pretty comforting.</p>
<p>I’m applying with a 31 too…but to CAS. </p>
<p>[How</a> Admissions Directors at Penn and Michigan Think About Test Scores - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/29/knowledge/]How”>How Admissions Directors at Penn and Michigan Think About Test Scores - The New York Times)</p>
<p>I applied ED to wharton with an ACT score of 30…
So i don’t know</p>
<p>Octobergirl, I was looking for that video everywhere! I saw it once and couldn’t find it again aha. </p>
<p>It really shows how people need to STOP FREAKING OUT about scores. Absolutely no difference between a 720 and a 780. None at all.</p>
<p>^Well that might be overstating… there is a difference between a 780 and a 720… all else equal, they will take the 780.
That being said, if a 720 has better EC’s, or better transcript, they may take the 720, provided the increase isn’t negligible.</p>
<p>I applied ED Wharton with a 29… but we all gotta keep our heads up and believe!</p>
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<p>The chances that two applicants’ applications will be exactly the same except for test scores are slim to none.</p>
<p>Euroazn, I don’t think it’s overstating if the applicant already has competitive test scores. I honestly don’t think an adcom cares about applicants with varying 700+ scores cause that means the applicant only got a couple question wrong, depending on the test date. They won’t look at one applicant and say since they have a 780 they will get in over someone with a 720. Really can’t see that being a deciding factor, you know?</p>
<p>If it comes to “take a 720 or a 780”, it is almost a guarantee that it will also be between “oh she’s from Alabama, and he’s from NY, so let’s take the Alabama girl” or “oh, I feel like she has more leadership potential from her EC’s”. There WILL be something else different that will mean more to the adcoms than those two test scores.</p>
<p>alright everyone…calm down
i applied ED to Wharton last year
complete **** SAT scores
and a 31 on my ACT</p>
<p>and i got in.</p>
<p>bear it, i was deferred from ED and accepted in the Spring–and was pretty much set on being a part of the Fighting Irish (or among the highest program available as a Buckeye)</p>
<p>i got in.</p>
<p>very holistic. be a good person, not just a good student. i had a lot of leadership, involvement and commitment both in school and out. and my grades were good.</p>
<p>but let me emphasize my test scores (especially for wharton) were ****ty haha</p>
<p>so its not a Yes/No factor–dont get me wrong, it IS a factor
but don’t stress (:
any particular questions feel free to msg me</p>
<p>and also–even if you are deferred and accepted in RD, at banquets, dinners, etc they still consider me an EDer and i got a pin that says “Penn Chose Me! Early Decision”</p>
<p>^lol, that’s a riot.</p>
<p>A lot of people believe that scores are so important. MIT is a school I have seen that will openly say that they look that you are qualified (700ish range) and they move on to the next item. I really do think that a lot of schools do that as well. I really respect silverturtle and I often agree with his approach to college admissions, but I really disagree with his belief about standardized test scores. He will tell you that statistics prove that as SAT/ACT goes up, chance of getting in goes up. While it is true that more people with higher scores get in to top schools, it is not the only reason. If you have a kid who worked extremely hard on getting a 2400, that kid will most likely have worked hard on his essays, gpa, and activities. Often times, the kid with a 31 will not have as great of a gpa, essay, and activities. When a kid with a 31 and a kid with the 2400 have similar gpas, quality of essays, and activities, they will both get in. Do you really think colleges will sit there and say “he got a 31, toss out the application”? Do you even think they will say “he is at a disadvantage now”? No. </p>
<p>Basically, more 31 kids have weaker overall apps than the 2400 kids, IN GENERAL. Hard work correlates with high scores and great applications. There are still hard workers who are poor test takers.</p>
<p>And great test takers who are slackers :[</p>
<p>Those are the one that do not get in. Not every high scorer gets in to these schools.</p>
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<p>More precisely, I would say that I don’t believe that the chance-of-acceptance increases that occur as scores go up are small enough to be fully attributable to confounding variables, nor do I believe that they should be: the difference between, say, 31 and 36 is significant enough most of the time to warrant a meaningfully different interpretation all of the time.</p>
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<p>No, 31 is a good score. But if the score were, for example, 24, would I expect them to toss out the application? Barring any enormously compelling hook (ultra-rich alumni parents), they probably will throw out the application.</p>
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<p>Relative to someone with a higher score, yes.</p>