<p>So there is quite a big difference between my sat and act scores. My 33 in ACT falls in the 50 percent median for Upenn and Stanford. But, my SAT scores of 2100 ( 630 CR, 750 Math, 720 Writing) do not. Since Stanford and Upenn require all applicants to send in all of their test scores, how will they look at my SAT score. WIll I be rejected because of my SAT scores?
Thanks</p>
<p>Certainly you might get rejected but not because you got 2100 on SAT while submitting a ACT 33. </p>
<p>They want your score history to know whether or not you’re a test-taking drone – you know, the sort that takes the ACT and SAT five times each – hoping to nudge it upwards each time. Your 33 in one sitting is much more valuable than some other person’s 33 on their fourth try. Get it?</p>
<p>Adcoms look for reasons to admit people, not reject them. It shouldn’t hurt you.</p>
<p>There isn’t really a dilemma. You have to send in your scores and they are what they are. </p>
<p>630 CR will definitely hurt your chances. Significantly. That’s a worrisome indicator, in fact, about your readiness for college-level reading and vocabulary.</p>
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<p>**I completely disagree with this overblown statement. ** CR 630 is 85th percentile of SAT test takers. You’re doubting whether this applicant has “college-level reading and vocabulary”??? </p>
<p>Plus, it’s a single component among a sea of EXCELLENT test scores. Colleges will see it for what it is – a single data point on a single afternoon. </p>
<p>It looks like you test better with the ACT than SAT. Isn’t that why students are advised to take both exams? Penn and Stanford will draw the same conclusion concerning the gap.</p>
<p>Don’t worry about the 630CR. Obviously you’re more than ready for college, reading or vocabulary-wise.</p>
<p>Will you get into these schools with these scores? Who knows? Chances are these scores won’t get you tossed out and higher scores doesn’t mean necessarily you would have a better chance.</p>
<p>Marvin’s comment is mean-spirited and I advise you to ignore it. While your CR score is not as outstanding as some of your other scores your scores are not the most important part of your application. Focus on what you can do–your essays–and go from there. </p>
<p>To Marvin and others of his ilk: It would be nice if responders would offer useful opinions based on facts and experience, not put-downs.</p>
<p>@marvin100
This sentence is not phonetically correct. Be more careful when you are trying to belittle others.</p>
<p>“Phonetically”? Are you having trouble pronouncing some of the words in my comment?</p>
<p>Not trying to be mean, just telling it like I see it, based on my experience. Definitely feel free to ignore my opinion. Its validity, however, is not up for a vote: 630 reading is very low for the schools under discussion in this thread.</p>
<p>You know, though, on second thought, I should have phrased my initial response more diplomatically. I’m sorry to offend and will be more careful. I stand by the substance of my comments, though.</p>
<p>Stanford, Yale and Pomona require ALL test scores. Penn does NOT. Send the 33 on the ACT to Penn, but not the SAT I scores, and forget about Stanford. You’ll need to take SAT II’s for Penn. </p>
<p>um if you look at penn’s page <a href=“http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/apply/freshman-admission/required-testing”>http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/apply/freshman-admission/required-testing</a>.
If you look at the second line, it says " Penn requires applicants to submit their entire testing history."</p>
<p>My mistake - it must be new.</p>
<p>My D was accepted to Penn, class of 2018. 32 ACT, 2150 SAT with 660 CR, so anything is possible.</p>
<p>^ URM? 1st gen? Legacy? Athlete? Other hooks?</p>
<p>That’s very irregular for an unhooked candidate.</p>
<p>@marvin100 Your experience? I’m sorry, I didn’t know that you were a college professor who could speak to the correlation between the Critical Reading section of the SAT and success in college literature courses. My mistake.</p>
<p>@foolish No, it isn’t that irregular. So many people over exaggerate test scores on here. There is SOO much more to admissions than an SAT score. My unhooked D was accepted to Penn with a 2140 because she had great ECs, a great essay, and an actual personality. She isn’t just a drone who strives to beat out other students and have the highest scores and GPA. I know a young man who had less than a 2000 on the SAT and he got into Penn because of his phenomenal singing. These colleges want personality in their students. That’s why so many kids with 2400 get rejected. Because they spend more time competing to be better than everyone around them rather than being an actual person who can contribute to a student body. Colleges don’t want the student who will just stay in their dorm and study. Top colleges want students to have a good social experience too.</p>
<p>@candy54321 and @rhg3rd, I called Penn because I think their language is confusing about what tests to send. </p>
<p>The website states, </p>
<p>Penn requires freshman applicants to submit either:</p>
<pre><code>the SAT (which includes the Critical Reading, Math, and Writing sections) and two SAT Subject Tests
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<p> OR</p>
<pre><code>the ACT Plus Writing
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<p>No preference is given to either test. Penn requires applicants to submit their entire testing history. Although Penn will pay attention to the highest scores from any test or subsection when reviewing a candidate’s application, having the complete testing profile provides deeper insight.</p>
<p>The woman I spoke to said that this means that if you send SAT scores, then you have to send all scores for all SAT tests taken. Likewise, if you choose instead to send ACT scores, then you must send all scores for any ACT test you have taken.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
<p>OP, for Penn I’d just send your ACT (assuming you took it with Writing).</p>
<p>This is definitely a NEW policy. I looked at last year’s Common App testing requirements. It states: SAT w/Writing or ACT w/Writing, 2 SAT Subject tests. Penn CAS is the only of the 4 undergraduate colleges at Penn that doesn’t “strongly encourage” a specific subject test or tests.</p>