<p>I live in Cali. My dad wants me to go to CSUN because that's where he went, but when I brought up ASU he was like "hell, no. we can't afford out of state fees!" </p>
<p>I don't have high enough grades for scholarships. What about financial aid? Isn't it hard to get into schools if you want financial aid? My family's income is somewhere around $200k a year, so I don't know if I'm even elligible :(</p>
<p>First of all, your income is too high to qualify for need based aid.</p>
<p>Secondly, ASU is an OOS public. They expect OOS students to pay the OOS costs. The school can’t afford to give out need-based aid to cover OOS student’s costs. </p>
<p>With your family’s income, your EFC is going to be about $70k per year. That’s higher than the cost of the school.</p>
<p>Okay, so you’re saying that we can afford it? </p>
<p>I guess my dad’s just being kind of stingy.</p>
<p>You know, you and your parents can go right to ASU’s web site and find out yourself how much it will cost:</p>
<p><a href=“https://students.asu.edu/financialaid/coa/undergraduate[/url]”>https://students.asu.edu/financialaid/coa/undergraduate</a> (list price)
<a href=“https://students.asu.edu/financialaid/net-price[/url]”>https://students.asu.edu/financialaid/net-price</a> (financial aid estimate, but don’t expect anything with the family income level you list)</p>
<p>*Okay, so you’re saying that we can afford it? </p>
<p>I guess my dad’s just being kind of stingy.*</p>
<p>I’m not saying that. I don’t know what your family’s situation is. Your parents may have other financial commitments…high house payment, property taxes, car expenses, etc. </p>
<p>The fact that your dad won’t pay does not mean that he’s being stingy. </p>
<p>Maybe he doesn’t think the cost is worth it. According to you, you don’t have scholarship-worthy stats, so maybe your dad doesn’t think it’s worth it to spend more than the cost of a CSU education. He may not think that ASU is worth the add’l cost. He may not think that you worked hard enough in high school to justify the cost. We just don’t know. </p>
<p>When there are less expensive alternatives instate, it can be difficult for many parents to justify spending thousands and thousands more for an OOS school that really isn’t that much better.</p>
<p>It isn’t stingy to refuse to pay full freight for college, when high quality, lower cost alternatives are available. It’s smart. There are many fine CSUs. CSUN is a great school.
If you don’t want to follow exactly in his footsteps (which I do understand), check into some of others. What is your planned major?</p>
<p>*I’m a junior on my 2nd semester and I have a cummulative of 2.4 right now. I realize that the end of this semester is my last chance to raise my GPA. I won’t have a 3.0, but maybe my ECs and ACT or SAT scores will balance it out? </p>
<p>I’m hoping that by the end of this semester I’ll be able to raise my cummulative GPA up to a 2.6. *</p>
<p>You may need to spend a couple of years demonstrating that you’ll work hard and get good grades before your dad might be willing to spend more on your college costs. Right now, he may not think that your performance is worth spending extra money.</p>
<p>UCbalumnus: thank you, i’ll be sure to show them that. </p>
<p>calla1: I’d like to major in biology, maybe. I’ve always had a thing for science. I’m thinking of becoming a vet tech. He’s a doctor and he wants me to become one and take on the family business. He already has me working at an urgent care. I’m really not into it but he keeps pushing :/</p>
<p>mom2collegekids: you make good points. i really am underacheiving. It’s just that we live in LA and I want to get out of the area. I really don’t want to do community and I don’t want to do csun. I want to go somewhere new. but i guess i don’t have many options.</p>
<p>With a 2.4 or 2.6 GPA, ECs will have no or minimal effect on your college admissions (CSUs generally do not consider them).</p>
<p>To be CSU eligible for admission, your GPA and test scores must exceed the thresholds given here: [CSUMentor</a> - Plan for College - High School Students - Eligibility Index - California Residents<a href=“note%20that%20GPA%20is%20calculated%20as%20described%20here:%20%20%5Burl=Cal State Apply | CSU”>/url</a></p>
<p>However, impacted campuses or majors require higher than minimum CSU eligibility: [url=<a href=“http://www.calstate.edu/sas/impactioninfo.shtml]Impaction”>http://www.calstate.edu/sas/impactioninfo.shtml]Impaction</a> | Student Academic Support | CSU](<a href=“Cal State Apply | CSU”>GPA Calculator | CSU)</p>
<p>Oh wow, ASU is about 12k a year more than CSUN. Geez, I had no idea it was that much more expensive!</p>
<p>Ucbalumnus: I got a 1540 on the PSAT, so with a 2.54 (which i’ll have by the end of this semester), I’ll be okay i believe. I’ll at least get into 1 or 2 of the least selective CSUs I believe.</p>
<p>Isn’t ASU on the WUE list? If it is, the tuition would be 1.5 times the in-state rate (not as high as OOS).</p>
<p>ASU in Tempe (the main campus) isn’t part of WUE.</p>
<p>Erose…</p>
<p>Monterey Bay will likely accept you. It would let you get out of your area and it’s a newish school.</p>
<p>If you went to Northridge, would you be commuting or living on campus? </p>
<p>You might also check out the costs at NAU in arizona. It does participate in WUE. Many Calif kids go there and enjoy it.</p>
<p>*<a href=“http://wue.wiche.edu/profile.jsp?id=27[/url][/I]”>http://wue.wiche.edu/profile.jsp?id=27*</a></p>
<p>Frankly, if your dad really wants you to become a doctor, then getting out of Calif is a good idea. Having a tie to another state that might accept you (if you get the right grades/MCAT) would be better than trying to get accepted to a CA SOM. </p>
<p>however, if being a doctor is not what you want, then fine. If you don’t want to become one, then you might not work to get the needed high grades.</p>
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<p>However, if it is difficult or impossible to gain residency in the other state, and that state’s public medical schools use residency rather than school attended as the means of giving admission preference (or they are as impacted as California public medical schools), then going out-of-state may not help.</p>
<p>Have you looked at Cal State Channel Islands? Small, intimate, CSU with happy students, good sciences, beautiful area, easy drive to the beach. The professors take an interest in the students. I’ve known at least 10 students who go there (or have graduated) and all love it.</p>
<p>Slightly over an hour from Northridge, so maybe a nice comfortable distance from home? ;)</p>
<p>mom2collegekids: My dad loves the idea of Monterey Bay (as do I). I definately keep that as an option 
& i live about 40 minutes away from csun. My parents would probably want me to commute. </p>
<p>ucbalumnus: really- you have to become a resident? my dad went to medical school in the caribbean and he did not have to become a resident of Monserrat. Maybe that’s different.</p>
<p>calla1: I took a tour to CSUCI. I liked it. But I feel as if It was kind of too laid back from me. Also, I live in the next town over, so it’s closer. (15 minutes to my beachhouse, 30 minutes to home).</p>
<p>I may have said I lived in LA before, but I usually say that because more people are familiar with the area. :)</p>
<p>Caribbean schools are private…so residency isn’t a concern. </p>
<p>UCB is talking about public SOMs. To get instate rates or instate consideration, sometimes you have to become a resident of that state.</p>
<p>However, some state SOMs will give your application extra consideration if you have a tie to that state…such as having grown up in that state or having gone to college there.</p>
<p>Okay, yes, CSUCI is definitely too close! I’ll change my vote to Monterey Bay. :)</p>