<p>is it easy to get in a good grad school after college?</p>
<p>what school is it equivalant to? (eg, upenn, berkeley, nyu??)</p>
<p>any suggestions?</p>
<p>also, are they very selective?</p>
<p>one more thing, hows the asian population?</p>
<p>babson is #1 in entrepreneurship
it's a smaller college compare to nyu, penn etc but you def get a good business education.</p>
<p>its tops for entrepreneurship but not as good as upenn, berkeley or nyu. It would be considered a second tier business school while upenn, berkeley and nyu would be considered first tier business schools.</p>
<p>come onvcsvfsfdsf</p>
<p>You cannot call the #1 entrepreneurship school second tier. More important than grad school is probably job placement, and Babson grads are known for being very hardworking because of the rigor of the course load. Recently, I talked with a Babson grad who is currently working for a consulting firm and will be working for an ibank in the next few months. He said his college diploma opened that door, so I would say that Babson is a solid school.</p>
<p>I never said Babson wasn't solid. It is a good school, but you can not honestly compare Babson to the likes of Upenn's Wharton or NYU's Stern. Job placement is one thing and I agree it is a very important element, but you would not easily come across a Babson grad working for the top investment banks right out of college. Job placement is one thing but what companies are hiring those graduates is perhaps even more important.</p>
<p>Overall conclusion: Babson is a solid business school. However, it can not be considered prestigious or elite when being compared to any Top 10 undergraduate business program, especially when its claim to fame (entrepreneurshp) is not offered at many other collegess and Babson does not have any exceptional programs besides entrepreneurship.</p>
<p>Solid Business School, But There Clearly Is a Higher Level of Undergraduate Business School.</p>
<p>It is not they have jobs but what type of job.......I-banking has tons of folks working backside. What is the job???</p>
<p>I would agree that it is a second tier college. It's known for entrepreneurship and that's it. Second-tier b-school doesn't mean much if your going to start your own business anyways.</p>
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<p>Yes, I go to Babson. While you get some business education, I would not rate it as the best. And the social life blows.</p>
<p>I mean, if a kid hates it enough to make a website and video about it sucking...</p>
<p>In Prestige, it can vary dramatically. Some people really like it, some never heard of it. Below all the schools you listed. Very few or none would go to Babson over Upenn. If you get into UPenn, don't come to babson. I've known quite a few kids that got into NYU Stern but decided to come to Babson because they preferred campus, it's very pretty. It has a campus and you get to know everyone, unlike NYU which is spread across Manhatten.</p>
<p>Dunkaroo- I go to Babson and admit the social life blows but will not tolerate inaccuracies regarding to job placement, especially since I studied accounting and finance. Last year, six kids went into JP Morgan's Investment banking division, out of a total of around 100 to 125 or so. Not bad for a graduating class of around 400 each year. If you want to go into research department or trading you are out of luck, but quite a few kids go into corp finance side of investment banking due to heavy alumni support recently. Most of bulge brackets will give full time offers to 1 to 3 Babson Kids from IB division. I'm not talking about some stupid back office stuff either. Only major banks that don't recruit here are CSFB, Morgan Stanley, Lazard, Greenhill. The other major players recruit here: JPM, Citi, Deutsche Bank, Bear Stearns, Rothschild, UBS, GS, BoA, as well as quite a few boutiques. Now if you want to work at top consulting firm, then you are screwed because emphasis of career development is on getting banking jobs lately. But you won't have problems at all if you want to go into numbers industry: accounting or finance. All of the major accounting firms recruit heavily as well if that is your thing.</p>
<p>Well the guy who hates the school 6 kids is not very much at all out of a total of 100 or 125. NYU Stern and the other top business schools put a lot more in with full-time offers. You said you are screwed for research or trading and only 1 to 3 offers for fulltime for IBanking. Screwed for consulting. Sure you can get hired by these investment banks, but as you said only 1 to 3 kids get full time offers.</p>
<p>That is more then some schools but I wouldn't call that exactly stellar. </p>
<p>I see you didn't know that the school was so materialistic. Have you thought about transferring elsewhere?</p>
<p>Oh yeah here is a link I found that outlines what arrogance is at the school and a response.</p>
<p>The original article: <a href="http://www.babsonfreepress.com/medi...ad-180111.shtml%5B/url%5D">http://www.babsonfreepress.com/medi...ad-180111.shtml</a></p>
<p>I see these international students probably have $$$ but it is not their money it is their parents money. They also aren't contributing much to the U.S. popularity because they go back and just take what is handed down to them. I think that is a major fault for Babson because instead of increasing its name in the U.S. which will be necessary if it is to ever rise to elite status many students just go back overseas to take over what was already created.</p>
<p>I was originally committed to Bentley College (Babson's rival) until I changed my mind to Penn State. Bentley also has a lot of rich kids but the money is sort of hidden in that people have a lot of it but don't flaunt it. Sure you have the Bimmers, rich international kids and clubbing but it is kind of taken for granted that many kids are rich so everyone just goes about their business. Even at Bentley with the kids whose parents are worth hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars and with a number of exotic cars such as Ferraris all around campus there never seems to be an overwhelming materialistic nature. Sure people recognize it but they don't feel like they need a more expensive car, higher gpa or more exclusive designer then the person who has it all (the person next to them). Perhaps take a look there. I regret not accepting their offer. The connections and job placement are also supposed to be terrific.</p>
<p>MassIsHorrible, where would you go for trading?</p>
<p>trading would be Bentley from my perspective. Although someone claims the academics are a "joke" when I first looked at it the school seemed challenging but not overly challenging. This is good because your gpa can easily be a lot higher. DStark if you've checked the other thread you will see that her son will be a corporate financing & accounting or accounting major. Those are very closely associated to trading especially the corporate finance & accounting.</p>
<p>Bentley has a trading room and it is very high tech and offers the school an advantage over other schools. </p>
<p>I would suggest you take a look there but more importantly you need to decide what is right for you.</p>
<p>Dunkaroo, if you want to be a trader, do you think it matters where you go? Do firms recruit for traders?</p>
<p>sure it does matter where you go because not every school gets recruited by top banks and financial firms. I can confidently tell you if you want to get a respected full-time position as a trader, banker, head analyst etc... with the likes of Goldman, CSFB, Citigroup or some other boutique bank like Lazard, Blackstone etc. you better have an unbelievable gpa from a mediocre school because you will have competition from the likes of Yale, Harvard, Princeton, and top 10 institutions. Oh yeah another thing if the Yaley or top 10 school candidate has those internships (Which is likely due to the noteriety of their school), mediocre gpa (3.2-3.6) and good recommendations they will get the job over someone from the likes of Babson or Bentley who has a roughly 3.5-3.7 but might be lacking those internships because of the lack of noterity of their school. However, if you have connections into a few of these banks/financial firms and you end up getting internships and do well in school with above a 3.7 you have a very high chance of getting hired by a bank.</p>
<p>Firms don't generally recruit for traders from non Top 25 schools unless you are someone really special. For example if you have a 4.0 with many amazing internships among other things to show for. </p>
<p>Think about what a trader does and why they get paid so much money for doing what they do. Traders handle a firms money and hopefully make a profit on their initial investment. You can't have mediocre people making these types of decisions because the company can fall. Traders are also responsible for taking money from other companies that have invested their money with the likes of Goldman etc.. and making a profit for those respective companies. I'm sure companies will not be happy if they are losing money in their account with Goldman which you are supposed to make a profit on.</p>
<p>Now I hope you get the picture...</p>
<p>So if a person can't get into a top 25 school, that person has little chance to get a trader job?</p>
<p>If you do well at Indiana, Miami, Michigan State, SDSU, Washington, Wisconsin, Arizona, Arizona State, Georgia, Florida, Colorado, Syracuse, Ohio State, Texas, Oregon, Penn State, you still can't get a job?</p>
<p>How about floor trading?</p>
<p>You can still get a job from anyone of those schools if you have a good GPA. Even if you go to Babson or Bentley and have a high GPA you will easily get a job.</p>
<p>yes the key thing in both your responses is HIGH gpa. That gpa needs to be much higher from the schools you listed dstark or mbhamm if you are to land that same job as a top 25 student who has more flexibility in terms of gpa. </p>
<p>dtark from the schools you listed sure you can get a job its just much harder to land one.</p>
<p>mbhamm4, I notice you are applying to some of the schools I mentioned. Are you looking to become a trader? Does a trading room interest you?</p>
<p>Dunkaroo- At what point does top 25 matter? How about top 30? What about top 41? Have these employers memorized top 25, only to exclude #32 Lehigh? Should I transfer from #26 to #25? I go to #33 (maybe it's 34) Wisconsin... should I be transfering to Michigan so I gain precious spots on the arbitary top 25 you have created? Will my 3.6 not carry the weight! So all of my friends from in state Wisconsin who were admitted to Cornell, Northwestern, NYU, etc. but could not afford it, are doomed to need a much, much, higher GPA with incredible connections? Are we just holding down the middle class now?</p>