<p>like i hear it is
but i just realy wanted to know
from people who go there or something
like if your a meat loving republican
are you screwed?</p>
<p>No, you are not screwed.</p>
<p>are you a meat-loving republican?</p>
<p>Haha. Well, it is certainly liberal. It was the fron of the Rights movement in the 60's. But im sure their are plenty of republicans (two, three maybe, just kidding). But u shouldn't be discouraged, hopefully people don't bash others just because they are conservative.</p>
<p>I love meat and, by all accounts, I hear I'm a conservative (although I do not profess any political leanings, officially). I have the audacity to identify myself as "Very Conservative" in my Facebook profile, and many a women have given me nasty looks for it. I don't let it get to me, although one particular group is especially disappointing "Every Time I Find Out That a Cute Boy is Conservative, a Little Part of Me Dies." If others find out your "background," there's a strong element of pre-judging that's associated with your being republican. It's ever-present, but it's not over-whelming, and although it doesn't dominate your everyday actions, there is an understanding that one should keep certain things (political views) to onself. If you want to join a group that is dedicated to progressive social action, good luck trying to land a leadership position. You must also exhibit a high degree of patience and tolerance- many people make their beliefs known and they aren't shy to share them with you. In the last elections, 93% of the city of Berkeley voted for John Kerry in the presidential elections, which says a lot. Berkeley does not "lean" to one party, but tips and screams liberalism. I don't subscribe to choosing friends based on beliefs, but I must admit that it's rather refreshing when someone comes around with common ideologies on life.</p>
<p>Hopefully that helps,
TTG</p>
<p>Great post ttgiang15, unfortunately I can no longer be ur friend.</p>
<p>Just kidding!
Actually, i hate it when people dislike or refuse to associate themselves with people of different ideologies. I think those kind of people, liberal or conservative, obvious don't feel strong enough in their own beliefs and are too immature. Apparently most people don't think you can mature conversations with people of the opposite party. In High School it always ends up in a yelling match, which I think is pretty pathetic. </p>
<p>I really want ur facebook account ttgiang15. Hope to see you in the fall</p>
<p>PETA is watching. When they find out your true identity, expect to see a flaming bag of poo at your doorstep.</p>
<p>Don't u like how PETA takes action against people killing animals: by killing people. I just think it's a little ironic seeing how PEOPLE ARE ANIMALS. </p>
<p>That's all for now.</p>
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<p>I'm in that group! I don't side with either ideology either, I just like the thing that says, "Because good looks only go so far, and they definitely don't go as far as good ideologies." Not as applied to politics but to personal beliefs :)</p>
<p>At least you didn't join for the group image. =/</p>
<p>Berkeley freshmen political orientation as researched by Berkeley itself::</p>
<p>The university is less liberal than the town per se. A little.</p>
<p>Berkeley is kinda funny for people like me. I tend to be socially moderate-liberal, while I'm financially very conservative. I'd subscribe to the Libertarian Party, but see myself more as an Independent. And if you could look at my voting record, depending on whose running and the election -- I might be just as likely to vote for the Republican as I am for the Democrat. Whoever represents my interests best, and I do research... a lot before I vote. </p>
<p>Government that governs least, governs best, I suppose. Of course, depending on who you ask, this could get me labelled as anything from Republican Lite to Free-Thinker. ;)</p>
<p>Any media release by any university is for positive public relations, make no mistake about it. I saw the article when it was first released, I knew it would be brought up in this thread, but I don't find it representative of views of Berkeley students on the "ground level." In the recent ASUC elections for Senate and Executive Positions, there was a total of 86 candidates for 25 positions: there was one candidate from the Berkeley College Republicans party and she was elected. Obviously, the largest Republican club in the country did not feel comfortable enough among the constituents to send several candidates up for election, but chose to spend of all of its resources on one candidate just so there's representation in the Senate. That's fairly extreme. A likely explanation for the Berkeley Freshmen Political Orientation Data is that there's an existence of a Silent Majority (well, Minority) of Republicans at Cal, those who are quiet and not active, but consider themselves Conservatives. This may very well be the case, but that lends the question: under what conditions are they living if they cannot openly express their views?</p>
<p>Something to think about,
TTG</p>
<p>I think that UC Berkeley is liberal, not very liberal, but fairly liberal. I also think it is far less liberal than people make it out to be or think it is, and this is a consequence of its previous self.</p>
<p>I read the university release and feel it is fairly accurate. On informal facebook polling, I figured about 1:11 - 1:13 students are very conservative or consevative out of all students with facebook who are scheduled to graduate between 2006 and 2009. I don't think I included libertarians. And ttg, I think people should be more honest and more willing to listen to others. If they aren't going to serious consider what other people are saying, they should say so explicity so others can move on. And I do think that at Berkeley (like at UCLA and probably elsewhere), there are some quiet students because their views don't fall in line with what seems to be the majority of the campus and many of the professors.</p>
<p>MEAT IS MURDER!!!
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Tasty, tasty murder.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that Berkeley isn't really a standout here. Most young people (especially college students) do not consider themselves conservatives, and Kerry won the votes of a very high percentage of young people (not all of whom attend college). Most young people seem to consider themselves moderate, but are actually much more close to liberal than conservative.</p>
<p>Quote: "And ttg, I think people should be more honest and more willing to listen to others."</p>
<p>DRab, I don't see why it was necessary to direct this statement at me. When you are saying "people," are you actually talking to me; that is, that I should be more honest and more willing to listen to others? Please clarify. Thanks.</p>
<p>I felt compelled to share my input given my background. As one can already tell, I felt that the release was not accurate on the "ground level." This was an important distinction, because political orientation as a campus unit is only worthy of mention as it pertains to one's daily experiences. </p>
<p>Whatever one puts on their Facebook account is meaningless if they are fearful to voice their opinions in the classroom or at the campus environment. Just a note, but random sampling on Facebook is not an accurate means of gauging any population, since it is not universally used by the entire student population (important- which are the type of people who don't subscribe to FB?) and there is a percentage of students who don't list their political views (fear, again) or soften their stance to be more politically correct (as it relates to the general Berkeley population). Facebook is a social network, and it would behoove a student who was conservative to regard oneself as "Moderate" for the purposes of not isolating certain populations.</p>
<p>I share my experiences as one who grew up in Orange County- a conservative bastion in the south- but in a city that was distinguished as having the "Greatest Hardship in America" with a minority population of roughly 85%. The city, as you might imagine, was a strong liberal base and the fear element found there is an apt comparison to Conservatives at Berkeley. Apart from being a minority ethnic group, the city's view was also a minority among OC as a whole. With that said, I feel my opinions have relative weight, although it is most useful for those who read these threads and describe themselves as "Conservative."</p>
<p>I don't feel as though I am perpetuating a misconception that Berkeley is very liberal place. In my opinion, as expressed through empirical evidence, it is. I have also provided the voting patterns of Berkeleyans, voting being the physical expression of one's political beliefs. I will mention that politics do not govern social life at Berkeley. As such, it is not "bad," insofar as (for the most part) it does not affect relations between professors or fellow students. However, my justification for calling Berkeley "very liberal" is that you'd be hard pressed to find many more colleges more liberal than Berkeley. </p>
<p>Regards,
TTG</p>
<p>Oh, I didn't mean that at you as if you didn't do that at all. Very sorry. I meant it in that I agree with you, and implicated you because you said it.</p>
<p>In addition, I don't think it's that hard to find 10-20 more liberal schools than Berkeley, and even more than that wouldn't be too difficult.</p>
<p>Oh, cool. =T</p>
<p>DRab, which schools do you think are more liberal than berkeley? i dont think i can think of any.</p>