<p>Usually the student finds a prof and joins in on the research project.</p>
<p>taekwondo - we do not track students who either drop out of the pre-health advising track, or do not meet the full requirements to receive the endorsement. The 93% is the stat for students who do receive the endorsement. </p>
<p>and as far as research, typically for freshmen and sophomore research will be done with a professor and a team of researchers. In later years, one can continue such research as well as apply for many different research grants to do independent research. There are many, many, many opportunities.</p>
<p>Yet another premed question.</p>
<p>I've read that many schools tend to lend a little preference to undergrads who apply to the college's graduate schools. One of the reasons I'm very interested in JHU is having the potential "advantage" of having better chances of getting into the JHU M.D. program since I would be a JHU undergrad. I know that you (AdmissionsDaniel) can't flat-out say that some people receive preference over others, but... does a JHU undergrad receive a little priority over a non-JHU undergrad when applying to JHU graduate programs?</p>
<p>I'm not Daniel, nor do I know anything about med school admissions, but the largest group of students at Hopkins med comes from Hopkins undergrad. That said, the group is still relatively small and admission is very competitive. I would guess that if there's any "advantage" at all, it would be minimal.</p>
<p>As for other graduate programs (non-M.D.), I have no idea.</p>
<p>As far as graduate programs (Ph.D.) go, it can probably be said that undergrad at a certain school will help you with grad school acceptance there. The professors who make the decision would know you or at least know that you are prepared. You also may have a head start because of undergraduate work in a professor's lab.</p>
<p>That being said, its common thought that it is better to get your undergrad and grad degrees from different places. An undergrad advisor that encourages you to stay for grad school may be somewhat selfish. It is better to work on different projects and get different viewpoints.</p>
<p>I have no idea how the med school thing works, but I don't think there would be as much of an advantage because med schools are usually completely separate from the undergraduate school.</p>
<p>alex_cole: this is one of the most popular questions we get from students. Unfortunately there is no clear-cut answer. Tanman's comments are quite accurate but they don't really state the entire situation.</p>
<p>What you need to understand is that Hopkins Medical is by far one of the most selective medical schools in the entire world. The acceptance rates each year are in the low single digits. That being said, the process of being accepted into Hopkins Medical is overly competitive for every single applicant to the school no matter where they studies for their undergraduate years. Simply stated, no one has an advantage when they apply to Hopkins Medical. </p>
<p>Over the past years, the largest number of students in the entering Hopkins Medical class have been JHU undergraduates. I believe last year it was 19 of the 110 enrolling students were from Hopkins. Does that mean there is advantage -- I would not say so because the acceptance rates are still so small and the numbers of students being denied admission into Hopkins Medical are still high. Yes, Hopkins undergraduates perennially make up the largest # of students in the medical class than any other institution, but this is not because there are a number of spaces reserved or any other specific preferential treatment.</p>
<p>Basically, Hopkins pre-med students do quite well in the medical school admissions process, and they tend to get into really good schools like Hopkins Medical. Plus, as you attend Hopkins for undergraduate studies you will have the chance to access the Medical campus for research and other academic opportunities. </p>
<p>Finally, I disagree with Dirt McGirt's statement that it is "better to get your undergrad and grad degrees from different places." It is better to get your degrees from the right institutions, in many situations it may be true that undergrad and grad from the same school is a really good idea. A student with degrees from JHU undergrad and JHU Medical, or a student with a BA and MA in International Studies from JHU, or etc. is still going to be a very, very, very employable student.</p>
<p>Hope this makes sense.</p>
<p>My statement was about science and engineering. This is what I have heard from a number of engineering profs. I should have specified what I was talking about.</p>
<p>I agree with Dirt McGirt that it is generally better to go to different undergrad and grad schools. There is a lot of truth in the "it is better to get different perspectives on topics" idea. When it comes to getting a PhD it is most important that you find the a Prof. that is working on the EXACT same thing that you want to. With so many programs out there, chances are that the 1 project that you love more than anything is not at your home school. Still, there are probably more cases where staying at your home school would be better if you were pursuing a terminal masters degree.</p>
<p>
[quote]
A student with degrees from JHU undergrad and JHU Medical, or a student with a BA and MA in International Studies from JHU, or etc. is still going to be a very, very, very employable student.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>Tell that to the MechE profs that run seminars telling you to get your grad degree else where because, suprisingly, industry doesn't like JHU grads as much as you would think.</p>
<p>I think you all are reading a little too much into my answer. I repeat: "It is better to get your degrees from the RIGHT institutions!"</p>
<p>I did not in anyway say that in each situation it is right for everyone to get their undergrad and grad degrees from the same schools. In some situations it is advisable, and in other situations it is not advisable. Not choosing an undergrad school because you may later want to go there for grad school is just not wise. First, choose the right undergrad school for you -- then later choose the right grad school -- it may be the same school or it may be the wrong school. There are no set rules. </p>
<p>For JHU, it may be right in some fields to try to get degrees from both levels (Medical / IR) and it may not be right in some other fields (you suggest MechE). </p>
<p>Every situation will be different.</p>
<p>I don't think we are reading into what you said too much, I am basing my claims off of exactly what you said. You said:</p>
<p>
[quote]
It is better to get your degrees from the right institutions, in many situations it may be true that undergrad and grad from the same school is a really good idea.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>I would like to highlight the "many" in that statement, and will again say that I disagree that there are many situations where this is true.</p>