<p>Hi, I think that I want to be a doctor, and am going to apply to hopkins, but lately I've been starting to like law as well. my question is that if I have a change of heart and do law, will hopkins cover me? The reason I ask is because hopkins is only known as being a medical school for the most part. Any help would be nice...thanks</p>
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<p>Not exactly. The common person may only know of Hopkins med school but that isn't to say that graduate schools and employers don't know of the several quality programs offered at Hopkins. I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong here) that Hopkins students have a 100% acceptance rate into some law school. So the simple answer to your question is, you will be fine if you come to Hopkins and decide you want to do law.</p>
<p>This is such a cyclical question - every few months this fantasic rumor of JHU as a premed factory rears its head. Do some research and you will find out that it is a myth. </p>
<p>Read the message board: <a href="http://messageboard.chatuniversity.com/jhuboard/%5B/url%5D">http://messageboard.chatuniversity.com/jhuboard/</a></p>
<p>Read the blogs:
<a href="http://apply.jhu.edu/hi%5B/url%5D">http://apply.jhu.edu/hi</a></p>
<p>See our academic offerings:
<a href="http://apply.jhu.edu/academics/academics.html%5B/url%5D">http://apply.jhu.edu/academics/academics.html</a></p>
<p>There is a lot more going on at JHU for undergraduates than pre-medicine. Our largest major is International Studies - we have the second best creative writing major in the country - some of the most unique, research-based Humanities programs offered anywhere - original interdisciplinary natural science programs - I could go on. As far as pre-law students, the acceptance rate is actually higher than for pre-med - 98% pre-law last year / it was 100% two years ago. </p>
<p>Yes, we do have an amazing Medical School and the best Hospital - but the Undergraduate Schools are on separate campuses and run differently. Because of that we have a larger %age of pre-med students than some other schools, but it is still less than 1/3 of our population. Don't get all hung up by the Johns Hopkins name. Visit the Homewood campus and see for yourself.</p>
<p>Out of curiosity, what is the '#1' creative writing program? My daughter is a pre-frosh aspiring writing seminars major and we've asked at Hopkins and elsewhere about this elusive program said to be above Hopkins and no one seems to know.</p>
<p>University of Iowa's Writer's Workshop is consistently ranked #1 for creative writing.</p>
<p>What is the Hopkins acceptance rate to med school btw?</p>
<p>If I'm not mistaken, the UIowa program is for grad school only, so comparing it to the Hopkins undergrad program seems unfair.</p>
<p>dsouthern - 93% last year, 95% the year before (for student who complete the pre-health adivising track)</p>
<p>elle - I know nothing about their program. All I am going on is the rankings we receive, where it states we are #2. Unfortunately, I have no idea what the source of the rankings are because I am not a fan of rankings in general!</p>
<p>AdmissionsDaniel i have a question</p>
<p>the placement figures for med school (93, 95)...are those inflated in anyway? i've heard rumors that hopkins only allows the top students to apply to med school so that their acceptance figures will be higher than most schools that allow anyone to apply</p>
<p>also, what exactly is "pre-med"...im confused on that
does it take the place of a major? can i major in BME and be premed as well??? would I still get a BS (or BA) in premedicine?? please explain</p>
<p>Pre-med isn't a major at JHU. It is a series of courses that prepare you for med school.</p>
<p>smder99:
you have hit another of the great myths of JHU. No, those numbers are not inflated. A lot of people make assumptions about our premed numbers either b/c they are so high (we do have one of the best programs in the country) or b/c when they learn about the pre-health advising system they don't understand it (it is not that difficult to get). </p>
<p>Here is how it all works!</p>
<p>First, there is no pre-med major. You can major in any program you want at Hopkins and still be pre-med. Pre-med (actually we call it Pre-Health) is an advising track program where you work with the Office of Preprofessional advising to prepare yourself for the medical school application process. </p>
<p>To be pre-med you will need to meet the requirements set forth by the Pre-Health advisors, one of which includes taking the 8 courses that medical schools want to see undergraduates complete. If you follow the guidelines set forth by the pre-health advising track, then in your senior year the advisors will assist you in applying to medical schools and complete your official letter of recommendation. Basically, this University supported letter of recommendation is our way of saying to medical schools we support these students. Students who receive letters are part of the 93 - 95% rate.</p>
<p>If you choose not to go through this process you still can apply to medical schools but your chances are not going to be that good. Consider the pre-health adivising program to be a Clearinghouse type of program, where we assure medical schools that the students graduating from Hopkins planning to go on to medical school are in fact prepared to succeed and have completed all the necessary steps. </p>
<p>So, no we do not discourage students from applying to medical schools to inflate our numbers. We set forth a very reasonable system to follow during your undergraduate years and then will support you in the difficult process. Our reputation as an institution is on the line when we support candidates for professional studies, so I think you can see why we have such a program.</p>
<p>thank you very much admissionsdaniel for clearing that up</p>
<p>also, how do research opportunities for undergraduates, looking to go to med school, compare with other top universities???</p>
<p>Johns Hopkins is known for our research opportunities for all of our undergraduate students - it is truly our most defining and unique quality. For students specifically interested in the medical sciences the opportunities are tremendous -- whether they be with faculty members, at the medical school, at the hospital, and the school of public health, etc. You will not be disappointed with the opportunities available, and you will be pleasantly surprised how intergrated research is in the undergraduate experience for JHU students.</p>
<p>Most professors are very receptive to research for undergrads. Opportunities can be found by simply dropping by a professor's office and asking.</p>
<p>I know this is a pre-med thread, but I wanted to add that research opportunities for undergrads are not just in the sciences. There are undergrads involved in research in (I would venture to guess) pretty much every department on campus for those who are interested.</p>
<p>I know that Johns Hopkins has one of the top premeds in the nation, but is that really good for prospective med students? Some people say that JHS pre med students generally have lower GPA than student from other schools. Those pre med students at JHS had a very rigorous curriculum and that is why their GPA is lower. Lower GPA decreases a student's chance at top medical program. Would a pre-med student be better off at a lower-tier pre-med school to get a higher GPA?</p>
<p>Some things to challenge the myth:</p>
<p>JHU was the first university in the modern sense in the US and I also believe it was the first (or one of the first) to take female grad students</p>
<p>JHU has very strong academic graduate programs in many fields, and many of those are not science (e.g. history, english, anthropology, art history, classics) </p>
<p>JHU undergrads have incredible opportunities to work alongside researchers in a variety of fields. Senior professors can be very accessible, reflecting the relatively low number of undergrads to faculty. Many JHU faculty take alot of pride in being good teachers; more so than at many peer institutions.</p>
<p>JHU has grants just for undergrad research. For example, one student I knew did a fully funded summer long study of how Navaho health practices combined traditinal and western medicine. This was an anthropology student who had no interest in medical school.</p>
<p>students at JHU are a very motivated and interesting group or rather variety of groups. The premed group is one of several equally large groups (the writing people, the international majors) and there are many smaller groups too.</p>
<p>and make sure you take advantage of the peabody conservatory. Great music students and faculty.</p>
<p>and don't forget the school of engineering, the hubble space telescope institute (a global premier center of astronomy), the applied physics lab (one of the biggest in the US)</p>
<p>of course it can be an awsome place to prepare for med school, given the med school and the school of public health. I think that whatever competitive difficulties it involves (high standards) is offset by the high value med schools place in the training it provides (med schools view grades according to school grading reputation)</p>
<p>there are some parallels between JHU and the University of Chicago--traditionally powerful grad institutions that have developed increasing undergrad focus</p>
<p>I can speak about this with some authority--I taught at JHU as an assistant professor. I was amazed by the quality of the students as well as my colleagues.</p>
<p>Oh, yes. faculty live close by to campus, adding to the sense of a critical intellectual mass. And students who want to live off campus can easily find close and inexpensive housing. Personally, I'm not such a big fan of crab cakes, however.</p>
<p>taekwondo39232 :
Yes, JHU students may have lower GPAs when they apply to medical school. But the top medical schools know what it means to graduate from JHU in terms of academic program and rigor, and this will not negatively impact our students. A 93% ACCEPTANCE RATE is impressive! </p>
<p>Additionally, the medical school review process is not based solely on GPA. MCATs matter as do your experiences during your undergraduate years (RESEARCH!). JHU premed students are provided ample prep for MCATs and has been discussed already the research opportunities are amazing. </p>
<p>I think when you see our med school acceptance rate and see which schools our students are admitted to (JHU Med, Harvard, Wash U., etc.) you will see that the strength of our program which may lead to lower GPAs does not negatively affect our students.</p>
<p>Admissionsdaniel</p>
<p>93% is a very good number. In this post, you mentioned that not all students receive the Johns Hopkins endorsement/letter of recommendation for med school. To me, that letter sounds very important. Do you know what is the percentage of students who receive that endorsement? </p>
<p>thanks</p>
<p>also, when people talk about premed research, are they talking about research in which a student brings his own topic to a professor, who guides him, or a student finds a professor who is working on a project and joins in?????</p>