<p>I see a lot of posts like:</p>
<p>"I don't have this or this completed and I applied do I have a chance?"</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>"I reported I had this grade but I actually have this grade and I got accepted. Will they reject me because I actually have this grade?"</p>
<p>Not to be an ******* but I'm confused. Do people not read the requirements when they apply or is it such a desperation to rush through Community College that the just say hey it couldn't hurt. Now that decisions are coming out it just seems like im seeing a lot of these posts. </p>
<p>Personally I have read over CSU and UC requirements until my eyes fill like they are going to bleed and know what I have and don't have and no question in my mind about what is required before I apply. Am i the only one that feels this way?</p>
<p>You mean requirements for transferring like at least 60 units, 2 English classes and 1 math minimum or a lack of fulfilled pre reqs?
For 3/4 schools I applied I didn’t complete the prereqs because I have very little intention of going there, but I did for my first choice. A lot of people probably did the same.</p>
<p>I completely agree with the point that people should do more research prior to submitting applications. I, too, have read all of the information conceivably available until near bleeding-point, and I understand how important it is for people to educate themselves and their decisions.</p>
<p>However, the fact that people have applied and have questions, or have applied without fulfilling the prerequisite expectations, is in no way indicative of an across-the-board rush, impatience, or any other number of things you may suspect. For the most part, all of these questions are indicative primarily of one thing, and one thing alone: kids are anxious to know their results, as many of us are taught that our educational paths will make or break our entire lives, and they are worried that one, small mistake can destroy all of their plans. </p>
<p>Now that is “for the most part.” You will, of course, find people who exhibit the behavior you mentioned for the reasons you mentioned, but even if so, that is a choice they have made. Not everyone is as obsessive over the literature as I am, so I can’t blame people for failing to learn something that I only learned because I stay up until 3 AM re-reading Cal syllabi.</p>
<p>@hello That’s what I mean. I understand that some schools have weird things they want u to do and it’s hard to fulfill every schools requirements but it’s when people get rejected and they’re like “I only had this missing or that missing and my GPA was high. why did I get rejected?Can I appeal?” requirements are requirements and while they may make exceptions, you can’t get mad if you aren’t one of them. Correct?</p>
<p>@justine I can agree with ur points. It’s just u see people on the decision boards griping about how someone with a lower GPA got in and it’s like we’ll you don’t have what’s required and they do. Then they start bashing the school when wait I thought before u found out ur decision it was one of ur top 3 choices.</p>
<p>See for my experience it was extreme lack of information or misinformation on part of my community college…</p>
<p>I can honestly say if I get into a UC this year I will have been helped extremely by collegeconfidential. However, yes the repeat posts get annoying…</p>
<p>I completely agree. That, I think, is totally silly and irresponsible. If you get a rejection letter and it is clearly the result of something that the university stated (anywhere) was a requirement for admission, it is your own fault that you applied and were rejected. People should be aware of that going into the application process as well. I do think, however, that most people are. The number of “am I eligible?” or “will such-and-such unfulfilled prereq hurt me?” questions shows, to me at least, that people do know, for the most part, what is expected of them. It is frustrating to see people whinge about something they could have prevented, but such is life, unfortunately, and the complaining only seems to get worse as we get older!</p>
<p>I try to be positive. I don’t have an outstanding GPA and I’ve been fortunate so far not to get any rejections but even when I was in high school applying as a senior and was rejected I knew that I was rejected because I didn’t do enough and I had to deal with it. There are people on here that I feel have legitimate issues that aren’t their fault and I’m pretty sure the University’s are willing to help them out. Error an be made on forms and their can be glitches in the system. I’m definitely not talking about people in those types of situations</p>
<p>I’ve found these boards very beneficial and will continue to stay on them even after I enroll at a 4 year in the fall</p>
<p>@nsws – Thank you so much for this post!</p>
<p>When I came on last night all I was seeing was people complaining about not getting in, a majority of which didn’t have their things finished. It got to the point where I was just done with CC for the night. I suppose you can lump me in with the obsessive type that will read anything and everything possible having anything to do with the transfer process, future schools or my intended majors. That’s not to say that I understand it all and that’s when I turn here for some guidance. What I get confused on is why wouldn’t people want to know everything they can? Transferring to a UC is big life choice, having to choose a school and major, and for many it’s a first time really leaving their homes or where they grew up. Why chance anything on not having the minimum of what you are asked for?</p>
<p>Well what you’re dealing with here is blaming another person for a fundamental personality difference. Not everyone obsesses over these things the way you or I do, but that doesn’t mean that they care less or that they don’t understand how big a decision it is. And again, even in the case of a person who does care less, why does it matter that they turn to the internet for help? That’s what this whole site is for. </p>
<p>I suppose I just don’t understand placing expectations on other people based solely on your own behavior; that’s a very egocentric way of thinking.</p>
<p>hey i missed a butt load of requirements for my backup school and they still accepted me. i agree with Hellolily i only looked through the requirements thoroughly for my first choice school and assumed the requirements would be the same elsewhere . people do get rejected from schools but it’s probably because it wasn’t their main target, I agree they shouldn’t be surprised though.</p>
<p>The main reason i posted this was because the decision threads have become more about the people who got rejected then accepted. Rather than people coming together as possible future classmates, they’re filled with people bashing the school because they didn’t get in. i was just tired of reading all the “why did he get in and i didn’t” posts.</p>
<p>I can’t tell you why you didn’t get in just like i can only speculate about why i did get in and vice verse.</p>
<p>“I can’t tell you why you didn’t get in” word, I agree</p>
<p>I’ve noticed, too, that many CCC students don’t do enough research. Many people I’ve talked to didn’t even know about TAG.</p>
<p>problem is many CC counselors have no understanding of the UC process. And many UC schools obviously do things differently.</p>
<p>I spoke with a UCSB rep today and was basically told straight up if applicants don’t have english/math requirement completed prior to spring (not just IP), it’s weighed heavily against them. at least at UCSB, your chance of acceptance approaches zero if you lack math and english. </p>
<p>i met with 3 separate CC counselors and all said I had a strong chance of acceptance but I had basically zero chance as far as UCSB admissions was concerned. i highly encourage future applicants to go to UC reps for guidance in addition to CC counseling.</p>
<p>exactly. i lived in Washington my freshman year. i moved back to Cali because i wanted to go to a CSU or UC. I couldn’t tag but i did what i needed to do to make my chances better</p>
<p>I agree with @sanfranciscokid NOWHERE does it say that having the math/english requirement IP in spring is a redline for getting rejected. UCSB even states on their website that some IGETC requirements can be met in the SUMMER. No other UC stated that having 1 or the other IP in progress in spring is a big deal. What makes UCSB so special. That was my backup :/</p>
<p>rep was very adamant about it. i asked about the pre-reqs and was told they matter far, far less than math and english done by fall.</p>
<p>^I think a big problem is a lot of people for some reason don’t bother going to admissions and asking their serious questions DIRECTLY and only end up interacting with an admissions officer until their application is submitted and they’re weeks away from a decision or, nothing personal, do what you did and contact them after they’ve been rejected. 8 out of 12 months in the year admissions officers are there without apps to review for this exact reason: to help you and answer any questions you have about transferring. Admissions is there year around to help you, their sole purpose isn’t just to review apps or else they would close down outside of Nov - May and save a lot of overhead budget for the UCs. Before last semester, I had some serious questions about a course I signed up for that wasn’t going to fulfill a pre-req and I was in contact with admissions all through August and September while I was crashing in at multiple CCs to ensure my schedule lined me up for the best chance to be accepted. </p>
<p>I think the problem is a lot of people for whatever reason are either just too lazy or are too intimidated to interact with an UC admissions officer directly and instead either go where it’s more convenient – to their CC counselors or, even worse, straight to these forums to get at best secondhand or more often just pure speculative information by people that aren’t any more qualified than they are to answer their questions.</p>
<p>As far as the Math / English requirement, they’re part of the core eligibility requirements. That along with 60 units are the most fundamental things to being able to apply as a junior level transfer. It’s kind of just assumed that logically those would be prioritized because they are among the most fundamental of requirements for admissions. Here’s an analogy, it’s like if you’re running for the presidency of the United States and you’re a foreign born candidate. But months before the November election you’re trying to rush process your citizenship application through the USCIS AFTER you’ve spent years raising your campaign funds and have hit the campaign trail. Just logically you’d think stipulation one, being a citizen to be eligible, would take precedent to stipulation two, which is getting your supporters and campaigning. Sure there’s nothing stopping you from doing it the other way around, but it just doesn’t seem practical.</p>
<p>yeah but you’re forgetting the fact that it’s hard to get a class like a 2nd semester english course…I am a 1 year transfer so I only have 2 semesters of course work, fall and spring. It was tough for me to get a 2nd semester english class in fall because of my freshman registration date and I barely scratched and clawed to get it the 2nd semester. You see how you have a faulty analogy/assumption? You can’t say that we were negligent in every scenario. Also I did talk to admissions officers from UCs. UCLA and Cal said it was fine, only UCSB seemed to deviate from this.</p>
<p>^That analogy more applied directly to that person’s situation to whom I responded. They had already mentioned that he/she chose to focus on other courses this Fall and left the core requirements for Spring, where instead it was possible and would’ve been more productive to do the opposite. </p>
<p>Regardless, to address your situation, that’s just one of the predicaments that comes with being a one-year transfer, which like most things in life has its benefits and drawbacks. The main benefit being you finish CC in one year and the drawback being it’s more difficult, so I’d assume more strenuous, getting those courses. And with what you’ve said, you’ve kind of already indicated that UCLA/CAL were more important to you hence why you called admissions there and UCSB you’ve appeared to have overlooked because it wasn’t as significant. Perhaps, if you had already known you were going to enroll at a CC for awhile, I’m assuming some time after last Spring, and you really wanted to go to UCSB you would’ve called before Summer or Fall and realized that it’s essential to finish those core requirements as soon as you can. Then maybe an option would’ve been to sign up for your first English course early, during last Summer and finish the second in Fall or even to finish that second English course in winter, so that you could update your transcript with a definitive grade before March. Also, there are a plethora of ways to improve your priority registration date: honor society, sports, clubs, etc. And before you complain about registration and those courses not being available at your CC during summer/winter, there are many online English courses out there and some are relatively easy to sign up for.</p>
<p>Anyway, point being that first and foremost anyone that’s seriously looking at a school should contact that school’s admissions as soon as possible to figure out what their requirements/preferences are and then “usually” there’s a way to satisfy that regardless of your situation. And even if there isn’t, you can be in contact with admissions to figure out what the next best option is for that situation. </p>
<p>For the record, I don’t think it will be held against you that you didn’t complete the second English course in Spring because you’re a one-year transfer. If you performed well in the first semester of English then I think you’ll be fine. This of course is purely speculative on my part and if you want to you can call admissions and get a more definitive answer.</p>