Is it just me or is Conrell's reputation becoming more and more of a joke?

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<p>I've been, for sometime now,seeing Cornell's educational systems being ridiculed and to be honest, i thought it was just people "hating" on it but c'mon guys, what the hell is going on with 'this' Ivy?</p>

<p>Wrong Emails ( and I know, that can happen to anyone), Programs Closing.</p>

<p>No to offend the Zeus' and the Hephaestus' but I also think the whole Greek System is stupid. Not fraternities or sororities in particular but Cornell's Greek System. </p>

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<p>I was reading a (not that^) blog/forum/board thing and I saw how (as much as it kills me to say this) ignorant people can get at Cornell.</p>

<p>They accept these guys?</p>

<p>Yes, there are ignorant people everywhere but an overwhelming majority/minority (depending on the way you see things) are located in Ithaca. :)</p>

<p>To be fair, I looked at similar schools, and saw that most posts were about rational topics and resided in between those boundaries. Although some were in great humor/stupidity as well.</p>

<p>Looking at not-so-similar schools, i was shocked to see how closely related they were.</p>

<p>Not to be insensitive to other schools but i kinda always thought Cornell held a standard.</p>

<p>I mean, it's no Harvard but still.....there should be bars raised.</p>

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<p>Only on this forum. Believe me - cut yourself off from CC for a month, and you’l be like the average person: Columbia, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell - whats the difference? lol…</p>

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<p>I’m so plain sick of the abuse that Cornell gets. Cornell is a world-class institution with amazing programs that put 99% of the world’s academic institutions to shame. Are you really citing “wrong e-mails” as a reason to denigrate Cornell’s ACADEMIC integrity?</p>

<p>Cornell (and the rest of the Ivies) rank in the top 1% of the world’s academic institutions in terms of financial endowment. It’s a beautiful place with smart, fun people and if that’s what a joke is to you then fine go to Harvard or something. It seems like your attitude would fit in better there, anyway.</p>

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<p>Rule #1: Don’t feed the ■■■■■■.</p>

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<p>Yeah I agree (not about the Harvard part but about the rest)</p>

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<p>Names that Cornell, Dartmouth and Brown are known to be called here at CC:</p>

<p>Lower Ivy
Sickman of the Ivy
Party Schools
Schools for the Legacies, developmentals, and sport guys.
Finishing schools for the rich and famous. </p>

<p>These are just a few I can think of. </p>

<p>I am not bashing these fine schools, I am just telling you that these are the common theme when people discuss these ivies.</p>

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<p>Ok, ::clears throat::…again!</p>

<p>I was never abusing Cornell, and for your information, Cornell is my top choice and I hope to get in, “Class of 2014”.</p>

<p>I love Cornell just as much as the next dude.</p>

<p>And maybe you couldn’t see at the moment but i also said, “and I know, that can happen to anyone”. </p>

<p>You also didn’t refer to any other point I made?</p>

<p>In terms of Financial Endowment?..is that how shows an institutions total value? Well, ok.</p>

<p>I have no doubt in my mind that it’s a “beautiful place with smart, fun people”. </p>

<p>But then again, you clearly proved one of my points.</p>

<p>Well, i’m not going to argue with anyone, just trying to get something across.</p>

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<p>Rule #1 repeated: Don’t feed the ■■■■■■.</p>

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<p>uummm…ok?</p>

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<p>Aka you’re the ■■■■■, and no one who reads this thread should give you any ammunition.</p>

<p>Got it?</p>

<p>Don’t feed ■■■■■■.</p>

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<p>@chendrix, I think I remember seeing him say that he’s applying to Cornell, I doubt that he’s actually trying to ■■■■■.</p>

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<p>Whatever the intentions, it is an inflammatory ■■■■■ post.</p>

<p>While one could systematically go through his reasons and explain to him why they are all silly, petty, and insignificant, I honestly doubt that would do anything to change his misinformed opinions about Cornell.
This makes him an involuntary ■■■■■.</p>

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<p>I would add penn to the “lower ivy” list.</p>

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<p>and i would jump off a cliff, but just because we’d do something doesn’t make that action justified in ANY way</p>

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<p>You can systematically go through all my reasons but it wouldn’t make sense to because i clearly won’t give ignorance the time of day.</p>

<p>Although I (and someone else) clearly said I’m applying to the school i want to go to the most, ‘Cornell’, you still decide to not read.</p>

<p>You see, when someone tries to convey an opinion across and the other doesn’t listen and decides to draw conclusions out of the air, it’s helpless to try and argue.</p>

<p>What’s this my misinformed perception about Cornell you speak of? (I really don’t talk like that but it calls for it).</p>

<p>That it’s no Harvard? Or is it that an overwhelming majority of ignorance resides in Ithaca?</p>

<p>Ok, honestly, i went overboard with those two. </p>

<p>What i meant by “it’s no Harvard” was that it’s reputation of prestige is not as much as Harvard’s.</p>

<p>And honestly, i wouldn’t even want to go to Harvard. So all this talk about ‘then go to Harvard’ is unnecessary.</p>

<p>And the ‘Overwhelming Majority’ thing, was just another thing i added. It’s not totally true.</p>

<p>Don’t take it personally.</p>

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<p>The e-mails is an absolutely stupid thing to hold against us. Yale had a murder, are you going to hold the school accountable for that, too?</p>

<p>Programs closing - Guess what? We’re in a recession. Every single institution in the US lost a huge amount of its endowment. The universities try their best to do what they can with the resources they can. From an administrative standpoint, if a program is grossly underutilized and grossly overstaffed, is it in the university’s best interest to bleed resources there, instead of tightening up and focusing on a strong core? I don’t think so. While I am sad that no one can take Intermediate Swedish anymore, my tears will dry up, because it’s absolutely useless, and Cornell prides itself on being progressive and founded in practicality.</p>

<p>You then make overwhelming judgments about the greek system without ever setting foot on campus or speaking to anyone in the greek system.
I am the first one to cry foul at the preferential treatment the greek system gets, but you have no right to complain. I have met some of the smartest, well-rounded, and interesting individuals who are Greek. I have also met some of the dumbest people at Cornell who aren’t greek. You will realize that the stereotypes you hold onto so dearly are grossly false.</p>

<p>I also resent that you say there is a majority of ignorant people in Ithaca. Your firsthand knowledge of this? Reading some forum post.
You then recant that statement, but to what ends? It just calls into question your opinion of everything else you wrote.</p>

<p>“Looking at not-so-similar schools, i was shocked to see how closely related they were. I thought Cornell held itself to a standard”</p>

<p>Once again, your expertise on this matter? Your firsthand knowledge?
You could have every right to bit*h and complain if you had any personal knowledge of any of these subjects.</p>

<p>But you don’t.
So yes, I think I will take it personally. Because your grievous libel borders on defamation of character.</p>

<p>I realize you are applying here. I also realize this is your primary school. But wait until you get on campus and have your own experiences before making such inflammatory remarks, please?</p>

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<p>I hope the OP does not get into Cornell because–
-He/she obviously does not like it. Look at the title of the thread. Also

and

What point was proved? That it is not a beautiful place w/ smart, fun people? Or are smart, fun people ignorant Ithacans? </p>

<p>-He/she does not want to live in Ithaca.

</p>

<p>-And he/she cannot write well.

Obviously not a typo. And

Sometimes knows when to use “it’s” and sometimes not.</p>

<p>OP, you should rethink your application. It does not sound like you view Cornell as a great school with a lot of opportunities, intelligent and interesting people and a social structure that you want to be a part of.</p>

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<p>Ok, I really don’t know if you actually read the whole thing but you really should. I’m not holding anything against anyone, firstly. Secondly, i was just pointing out something that is participating in the decrement of Cornell’s already jeopardized reputation. As i also said if you didn’t see, " and I know, that can happen to anyone".</p>

<p>Yale had ‘a’ murder.</p>

<p>Let’s look at that statement for a second. Yale had ‘a’ murder. Is that what i would hold against them? ‘A’ murder?</p>

<p>Now, i’m not rationalizing a life because it was singular as no life lost (unnaturally) should be justified but really?</p>

<p>Ay, good point on programs closing!</p>

<p>And wait??..Not stepping foot on campus???..not knowing anyone in the greek system??? </p>

<p>predetermined, I presume?</p>

<p>And you seem to interpret things totally wrong.</p>

<p>Who ever argued that there aren’t some of the brightest, most-talented kids in the Greek system; who argued that there aren’t some of the dumbest kids not in the greek system?</p>

<p>I also don’t know why you brought that up because this was never anything questioning academic ability.</p>

<p>“I also resent that you say there is a majority of ignorant people in Ithaca. Your firsthand knowledge of this? Reading some forum post.
You then recant that statement, but to what ends? It just calls into question your opinion of everything else you wrote.”</p>

<p>It does? Hey, i made a mistake, who’s without sin?</p>

<p>"Looking at not-so-similar schools, i was shocked to see how closely related they were. I thought Cornell held itself to a standard</p>

<p>Once again, your expertise on this matter? Your firsthand knowledge?
You could have every right to bit*h and complain if you had any personal knowledge of any of these subjects."</p>

<p>Please educate me on which ‘expertise’ is needed to pair similarities? I merely just saw a correlation between schools of one perceived caliber and another. </p>

<p>hmmm…ok, so you feel i’ve conveyed falsehood and/or tarnished character? (if i deciphered your statement well enough)</p>

<p>Hm,well, I’m truly sorry if you feel that way because you do seem very passionate about Cornell, which i truly respect. :)</p>

<p>And thankfully, you’ve realized that I do want to go to Cornell.</p>

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<p>To: morrismm</p>

<p>Didn’t totally get your post so i won’t reply in depth, but what i did get out of it was that you must think everyone is without error?</p>

<p>" Sometimes knows when to use “it’s” and sometimes not. "</p>

<p>Not sure if that was intentional but just wanted to point it out to you.</p>

<p>Also, when i said Ithaca, you seem to not have caught my indirect reference to Cornell, but that’s a done issue as I didn’t actually mean the statement.</p>

<p>Not sure what you mean by “OP” but if you care to explain to me, it’ll be greatly appreciated or refer to me by what it says on my post, that’ll also be appreciated.</p>

<p>And I probably won’t reconsider my application. I think i view Cornell as a great society with tons of opportunities. It is actually what you make out of any society you know.</p>

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<p>[OH</a> NO YOU DIDN’T…](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0TAxLjkdFU&feature=related]OH”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0TAxLjkdFU&feature=related)</p>

<p>Sorry, I just always wanted to interrupt one of these threads with that video :D</p>

<p>But seriously guys, lighten up already.</p>