<p>So i am an undergrad Chemical Engineer at my state flagship university and im looking at a 3.10 GPA along with a 166 LSAT...obviously with my stats there is no way ill get into a T-14 law schooll so i was wondering if applying to and attending a school in the T-50 range would be advisable? Sorry im new to this and would really appreciate some good advice!
Im looking at applying to:
UNC-CH
Iowa
Texas
Villanova
Wake Forest
Emory
Ohio State
Anyone know about how good those schools are with job placement?
Thanks for your input!</p>
<p>Yeah it all depends on how that market is doing. </p>
<p>I dont think you’ll get into UT, unless you can boost your GPA a bit. </p>
<p>You’lll probably get a job if you go to UT(or any other major LS in texas) Houston and Dallas are 2 of the biggest legal markets in the US.</p>
<p>thanks for the reply! Ah i see…would it be inadvisable for me to even consider going to law school then? (since the market is still kinda down right now) Yeah i know UT law is a longshot, but i live in Texas so its worth a shot, no?
Should i consider U of Houston? Its not in the T-50 but its in a major Metropolis so job prospects may be greater than what its ranking suggests?
Oh and can ya’ll also suggest any other schools worth looking into?</p>
<p>From what I understand, Patent Attorneys are harder to come by than other lawyers. Not many lawyers have that scientific background. I’m sure it would be worth while to go to a law school around the area in which you hope to practice.</p>
<p>Texas Law will be a reach for you, but it is easier to get in as an in-state applicant.</p>
<p>You’ll have a decent shot at SMU, which is better regarded than UHLC.</p>
<p>Thanks guys! Ill definitely look into SMU…i never even thought about that school until now…So do you guys think its WORTH going to law school even if i dont get into the T-14? Idk if the benefits of attending law school will outweigh the opportunity costs of not getting a job once i graduate? any advice on that?
Thanks for the responses guys!</p>
<p>@liu</p>
<p>SMU is better regarded in Dallas, while UH is better regarded in Houston.</p>
<p>Im pretty sure you’ll find a job coming from SMU or UH.(Assuming you dont get in UT)</p>
<p>UH isnt to far out of the Top 50.</p>
<p>Yes its worth going to Law School. UH and SMU are two good law schools. UT/UH/SMU are your best options for Law School in Texas. I would recommend Baylor, but you’ll be able to network better in Houston/Dallas/Austin.</p>
<p>The only real advantage of graduating from a T14 is salary. Coming from UH/SMU you’ll be making around 85k. You’ll probably make a few thousand more coming from UT/T14s…</p>
<p>Top-law-schools.com is a great site(i just found it) Lawschoolnumbers.com is a good site too.</p>
<p>You have a pretty good chance of getting a job coming from UH or SMU.(and UT)</p>
<p>D is about to start at SMU Law. In conversations I have had with several SMU alum they seem to be all about the numbers…GPA/LSAT whereas UH says they have a more holistic approach. You should also apply to Baylor and Texas Tech…</p>
<p>TTU while currently a tier 3 according to USNWR still produces very good lawyers who get good jobs in the state. They have had the highest bar passage rate of all texas schools for three consecutive exams, have an amazing new facility and I think will see their rankings rise.</p>
<p>Hey thanks guys! Ill definitely add SMU, Baylor and UH to my list…maybe not Tech since im not a huge fan of Lubbock XD</p>
<p>Thanks for the info!</p>
<p>@eadad </p>
<p>according to LSN, UH and SMUs numbers are very very close.(aside from SMU being ranked a few spots higher)</p>
<p>It really depends on whether or not you’d rather be in Dallas or Houston. I think we can both agree when i say that if you go to UT/UH/SMU you’ll have the upper hand due to location. </p>
<p>I personallly would rather work in Dallas, my home; so I’ll be shooting for SMU after i get my BBA.</p>
<p>@CP3</p>
<p>Lubbock isn’t as bad as people make it out to be.</p>
<p>My brother is an attorney in Ohio, and he’s been trying to encourage my d, who’s majoring in chemical engineering, to go to law school because he says their firm is always looking for the engineering/law combination. He says there’s a market for attorneys with the technical expertise. She’s not biting though …</p>
<p>Her brother’s the one wanting law school, but he’s an economics major. ;)</p>
<p>zebes</p>
<p>A lot of people Major in Econ and go to LS.</p>
<p>Thanks guys!
i also looked up SMU and its REALLY expensive!; well to be fair so are most other private law schools
do yall know how SMU is with fin aid? Would my stats get me any $$?</p>
<p>CP3:</p>
<pre><code> Don’t worry about your GPA. An engineering GPA is lower than any other majors.
Average UT engineering graduate GPA s 2.9 compare to History 3.3.
I recommend you to take LSAT again. I think if you finish at least 20 PTs and
Buy books like Logic game bible and Logic reasoning bible. For sure you can
get 170+ with your engineering background.
Go to as best law school as you can. with 170+LSA 3.1 Engineering GPA UT
Will become your safety school. You might get into Cornell or Georgetown.
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<p>To the guy above, it makes absolutely zero difference whether Engineering is harder than Political science. Not in law school admissions. Your anecdote about averaging undergraduate GPA for a UT student is completely irrelevant to law school admissions. There are those who believe that engineering degrees give you a slight bump in admissions, but those people will tell you the bump is extremely small, maybe .05 of a gpa point. And with yout 166 there is zero chance of a t-14 and will be tough at many of the top 30. But if you retake and get 170+ (probably closer to 172) you can have a chance at the top 14.</p>
<p>CP3:</p>
<pre><code> Login lawschoolnumber.com I went through every applicants applied UT-austin.
There are one bio-engineering applicant name caleng GPA 3.2 LSAT 170 top public
rejected by UT-A but accepted by Northwestern U. If you are from TEXAS you
have very good chance.
There is another one gte166w GPA 3.1 Mechanical Engineering LSAT 166 Rejected
BY UTA but accepted by Emory.
Wspar7247 GPA2.97 Lsat 167 From Texas A&M Accepted by Emory Major Electrical
Engineering
Muffinru GPA 3.18 LSAT 170 Bioengineering From Top 20 private Rejected UTA
Accepted: Vandy, UIUC, Northwestern, Cornell, Washington U in STL, U Michigan.
Anyway most of time if you go to all applicants you will find most of lower GPA with
High LSAT most of them are Science and Engineering Background. With your
background I think you can bring up your LSAT to 170+ . You still have very good chance
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<p>CP3:</p>
<pre><code> With LSAT 170 and GPA3.2 you don’t have any chance to T14 at all.
But with engineering degree and LSAT 170+ you have very good chance.
They know engineering average GPA is lower and students are smarter.
The only way to prove you smarter is high LSAT.
Take LSAT again and bring up to 170+ you can get in T14 easy. trust me.
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<p>CP3:</p>
<pre><code> I mean with LSAT 170+ GPA 3.2 with English major you do not have any chance to
</code></pre>
<p>T14 at all.</p>
<p>You are making a causal relatinoship fallacy…hope that helps. That will be minus several points on your LSAT.</p>
<p>Also, here is just a few people on LSN that have less than 3.3 gpa’s, 170 LSATS, do not have an engineering degree listed, and got into a t14. Don’t throw misinformation on a board that is supposed to help people.</p>
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<p>This was literally like 4 of the first 6 people I clicked on.</p>
<p>To OP, you have a chance with a 3.1 gpa at t14, but don’t expect your engineering to help you. Expect a high LSAT and significant work experience to help you.</p>