<p>are U of M students required to send in their FAFSA? I didn’t do it cause our family isn’t in a position to get need-based scholarships/grants.</p>
<p>What am I crazy for, not wanting to go to UVA? Or using UVA as an alternative to Michigan?</p>
<p>I have seen alot of people hype of UVA on CC, but I just don’t understand why. Sure its a good school, but I would love to go to Michigan. I want to go into dual major in Engineering and Math, and Michigan is strong in both. UVA is ranked for Engineering, but it certainly isn’t as a good as Michigan. I just feel that my opportunities would be endless at Michigan.</p>
<p>“If it makes Michigan feel any better, I suspect that the California State University system is also going to have a rough go.”</p>
<p>UMich is in much better fiscal shape than Cal State AND UC schools. It has a huge endowment and is actually in much better shape than MOST universities in this country to ride the weak economy now.</p>
<p>“I hope that Michigan can make smart cuts to retain the ultimate legacy of that great school. I am concerned, though.”</p>
<p>Don’t you worry about U-M. The school has a much better track record and set-up than the vast majority of publics and privates in this country. They gave up depending heavily on the state years ago because of the volatility of the economy here. Other schools are the one’s who need to worry. They aren’t used to such a deep recession, Michigan is! Furthermore Michigan is HIRING additional professors now and getting even better ones to replace retiring teachers. I assume publics like in California are going to be raided of some of their better faculty.</p>
<p>"What am I crazy for, not wanting to go to UVA? Or using UVA as an alternative to Michigan?</p>
<p>I have seen alot of people hype of UVA on CC, but I just don’t understand why. Sure its a good school, but I would love to go to Michigan. I want to go into dual major in Engineering and Math, and Michigan is strong in both. UVA is ranked for Engineering, but it certainly isn’t as a good as Michigan. I just feel that my opportunities would be endless at Michigan."</p>
<p>You’re not crazy at all. Michigan is better than UVA in engineering. It’s the cost factor that is the problem of course. </p>
<p>“I have seen alot of people hype of UVA on CC, but I just don’t understand why.”</p>
<p>You’re preaching to the choir on this point!</p>
<p>UVA is an amazing school for the areas my son is interested in. Michigan, as well.<br>
But don’t kid yourself about U-M:
[Coleman</a> discusses financial outlook during ‘fireside chat’ with students](<a href=“http://www.ur.umich.edu/0809/Apr13_09/31.php]Coleman”>http://www.ur.umich.edu/0809/Apr13_09/31.php)</p>
<p>Thanks for showing me an article that is almost a year old. How about this one from this past week. </p>
<p>detnews.com/article/…/As-U-M-hires-and-builds-up–MSU-cuts-back -</p>
<p>“The University paid the Michigan promise grant for students who were, well, promised it this year. I wouldn’t expect this to happen again.”</p>
<p>I didn’t get mine! O.O</p>
<p>^he admits of mixing Michigan Competitive Schoarship with the Promise scholarship, so no, you’re not getting the $ from the “promise”.</p>
<p>lol, “promise”</p>
<p>I believe this link will work for the above remarks.</p>
<p>[As</a> U-M builds up, MSU cuts back | detnews.com | The Detroit News](<a href=“Detroit Local News - Michigan News - Breaking News - detroitnews.com”>Detroit Local News - Michigan News - Breaking News - detroitnews.com)</p>
<p>Also this highlight:</p>
<p>Instead of laying off staff, the Ann Arbor campus is hiring faculty. The university is in the midst of a $30 million effort to add 100 instructors to broaden its interdisciplinary studies program, on top of normal hiring.</p>
<p>Because U-M’s historic competitors for faculty nationwide – Harvard, Stanford and the University of California at Berkley, for example – are not hiring, it has been able to scoop up more of its first choices for faculty.</p>
<p>“It has been amazing – we got our top choices every single time and managed to raid specialists at various levels from many centers of excellence around the country,” said Thomas Zurbuchen, associate dean for entrepreneurial programs in the College of Engineering.</p>
<p>U-M President Mary Sue Coleman boasted of the school’s ability to “capitalize on the economic downturn” during her annual State of the University speech in October. “If there is a benefit to the recession and the fact our peers are not making (job) offers, it is that the University of Michigan is in an opportune position to recruit … (and) move forward with a research expansion unlike any other in higher education,” Coleman said.</p>
<p>From The Detroit News: <a href=“Detroit Local News - Michigan News - Breaking News - detroitnews.com”>Detroit Local News - Michigan News - Breaking News - detroitnews.com;
<p>“UVA is an amazing school for the areas my son is interested in. Michigan, as well.
But don’t kid yourself about U-M”</p>
<p>I suggest that you don’t kid yourself about UVA either.</p>
<p>Wait, UMich DIDN’T cover the Promise Grant?!?! Wth? No offense. Here at State we all got it covered 1st semester and about half of us got it covered 2nd semester. UMich has a LOT more money than we do. I was told by one of my friends that UMich students got their Promise grant funded.</p>
<p>EDIT: After reading that article I don’t understand why they didn’t take some of that “construction money” and use it to help out the financially strapped students of Michigan. We’re all hurting and it just seems like they should have given it to some of the students instead. Just my opinion though.</p>
<p>rjkofnovi, what is your problem against UVA? You act as if Michigan trumps it when its only better by a little bit, if its even better at all. If it wasn’t for me wanting more of a hard sciences/heavy math education, I would be almost crazy to attend Michigan with those out of state fees. </p>
<p>I understand your love for Michigan and please believe I share it. I want to go Michigan much much more than I want to go to UVA, but even then, I know UVA is still a top school that attracts Ivy league talent. You feel like Michigan is better and I strongly agree too, but to treat UVA to Michigan as if we were comparing MSU to Michigan, quite frankly, looks bad on your behalf.</p>
<p>Not trying to start an argument, I am just sayin.</p>
<p>romani, how many students attend MSU? I was wondering U of M has been dropping slightly in the rankings, and isn’t providing the promise for students, despite the fact that it’s by far the richest public school in the country (I think). Maybe it’s because U of M has so many students?</p>
<p>MSU has about 47,000 students. The students all over the state of Michigan who were supposed to get the last $2,000 of the Promise Scholarship didn’t get anything. The Competitive Grant was cut in half this year and nobody knows what next year brings.</p>
<p>IMO, they made both the competitive scholarship and the promise way too easy to be eligible for. If they’re going to make it so easy to be eligible, at least have a financial need requirement so it can last for more than a few years and the most needy students will get some needed aid…</p>
<p>The Michigan Competitive Award does have a financial need component. It was the Promise Award that was given regardless of need. The middle class tax payers who were getting a little bit of their money back to send their kids to school are the ones hurt by the failure of the Promise Award. Those who are at the poverty line and have more dire circumstances still benefit from fairly generous financial aid, as you did Yosup. </p>
<p>If you analyze the COA figures you will see that your non-loan award is pretty much fully funding your tuition and room and board, they add in a pretty large amount for miscellaneous spending that is not really necessary.</p>
<p>“The middle class tax payers who were getting a little bit of their money back to send their kids to school are the ones hurt by the failure of the Promise Award.”</p>
<p>Middle-class no longer exists in America. There are only the “haves” and the “have nots”</p>
<p>^ you’re completely wrong</p>
<p>^
Both you need to explain why you believe your point is true…</p>