<p>My counselor told me that the degree of difficulty of getting into privates is essentially the same for both domestic and international students but the only difference between the two is that the latter must be able to show ability to pay. true? i was kinda shocked at what he told me because from my experience here i thought it was generally harder, much harder.</p>
<p>it's unclear what you mean here. Do you think it's "much harder" for domestic or international students?</p>
<p>Statistics don't bear that out. Without a doubt many qualified international applicants (with ability to pay full ride) are vying for spots but the privates have unofficial quotas. Therefore, internationals are competing among themselves for fewer spots.</p>
<p>Case in point, look at Yale who has need-blind admissions for Internationals. You don't see them admitting 30% of the freshman class as non-US. Won't happen</p>
<p>so my counselor was wrong right?</p>
<p>Your counselor is horridly incorrect.</p>
<p>Internationals are at a significant disadvantage.</p>
<p>Different schools have different policies. There are a lot of privates.</p>
<p>That is Extremely untrue!
It is actually the opposite. International (Non US citizens) students have a much higher chance of getting in than US citizens.
Tons of privates are looking to increase their International population lately.
I got in to 4 schools which my counselor dubbed 'practically impossible' based on my stats ONLY because I am international.</p>
<p>my country has about 200 students competing for about 2/3 positions in Trinity...most have 4.0 gpa, 2200+ SAT and sat 2 n so on....</p>
<p>SERIOUS DISADVANTAGE. most other colleges have the same competition</p>
<p>I think it depends on the private college. Name recognition is huge, especially as seen by the international committee. Certainly HYP can pick and choose as they want. But it might be completely different at a school like Carlson, Denison or Lawrence. Great schools, but clearly on a different level in the private sector.</p>
<p>I think the counselor was errant in making any kind of generalized statement like that because there is nothing all or nothing about college admissions.</p>
<p>BlackLantern, I agree with Modadunn that it depends on the private school. USC, for example, received 7% of their freshman applications from Internationals, and 7% of their admits were Internationals <a href="http://www.usc.edu/admission/undergraduate/private/0910/FreshmanProfile2008v3.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.usc.edu/admission/undergraduate/private/0910/FreshmanProfile2008v3.pdf</a> . So, percentage-wise, it was the same degree of difficulty. Other schools may have very different statistics.</p>
<p>What might make it harder for Internationals is that nearly the entire pool of International applicants is highly qualified.</p>
<p>I would suspect what shingle is referring to is non prestigious privates which are anxious to be more diverse. There are loads of them. At top schools, it's certainly harder for internationals which is easily seen by looking at published numbers.</p>
<p>At privates that are not need blind to internationals (everything but princeton and yale and a few others ) this is relativley true. The vast majoreity of internationals request financial aid.</p>