Is Stanford really worth the money?

Five years ago, my S was a senior in high school. Like many of you now, he was in the throes of college applications. He applied to 13 schools. He applied to all the academic scholarships he could and after that we prayed that he would get in somewhere. Yes, he was a good student but , in truth, there were kids who were definitely better than him. He was smart but not some crazy genius. He was extremely active and hardworking, but he wasn’t going off to college with a coding degree under his belt already, nor had he IPO’d a company or nor had he performed some off the wall research that could put an end to world hunger or cancer. He was a normal, bright, hard working kid.

Interestingly, in high school he was always the kid who flew under the radar. He was quiet, not shy, but unassuming. He was well liked, but he wasn’t a big personality. So no matter what he did, he just never seemed to get the credit he worked for nor was he awarded for his efforts. But then senior year came around and he was accepted to all 13 schools that he applied to (Colgate, Dartmouth, Lehigh, Geneseo, Richmond, Duke, Vandy, Notre Dame, Tulane, Rice, Wash U, Wake Forest and Stanford)

Stanford was the last to accept him. The schools that he EA’d, of course we knew early on were possibilities for him. The rest, with the exception of Stanford actually sent him “likely” letters. So by February of his Senior year we knew he had 12 schools to pick from. Honestly, never in a million years did we think he would get into Stanford. So we revisited some of the schools from his list of 12 and started to truly whittle down the list. It came down to one school. He had received a scholarship that would cover full tuition for four years. We aren’t rich but we don’t qualify for finaid either. So to think that College was only going to cost us a room/board or $13k/yr was miraculous! And just as important our S was very excited with this college option too! So it was a win-win.

Then April 1st came around and Stanford sent us the email accepting our son…I cried. The expense of this school was far beyond my comprehension. We didn’t have $60K a year to spend and he wasn’t our only child. He had a sibling who needed to be educated too. So we flew out to CA and checked out the school. Needless to say, he fell in love with it. He actually came back from admit weekend stating that this was the place for him. He felt like he belonged! Well my husband and i had some serious thinking to do. How could we afford this? Even with loans, could we do it? Then there came the typical banter that everyone always hears…
-Undergrad isn’t important. Save the money for grad school.
-School is school. Math is math. Its the same where ever you go, why pay so much more for the same education.
-You’re paying for the name. (Whats in a name?)

We were told by so many family members that we were CRAZY to pay for Stanford, when he can go to another top private university for $13k/yr. After all, we were talking paying $52 v. $240K!

It was insane to think that anything could be worth that much money. To make a long story short, and obviously since I’m on the Stanford thread, we decided to let him go to Stanford. It was the scariest financial decision of our lives!

But here are the results.

Stanford has opportunities far beyond your wildest imagination. The opportunities are both on and off the campus. S graduated having worked not one or two internships but 11. He started his own consulting company going into his junior year and graduated last year with two 6 figure base offers. He and a friend started their own company upon graduation and are doing tremendously well. My husband and I never wonder for one second if we made the right choice. Stanford was absolutely worth every penny. As for the nay-sayers, they were wrong. Undergrad school does matter, especially if you don’t go on to grad school. Math isn’t just math. Math, Computer Science, Economics etc is anything but the status quo at Stanford, and companies realize that and value it. And lastly, I agree that the name -Stanford- does come with a hefty price tag, but the Stanford name also bring about respect and appreciation by companies out in the real world. But here’s the last bit of proof in the pudding…S decided to treat himself to a very expensive limited edition car. He’s worked insanely hard. Hasn’t taken a vacation or a day off since he started school (Keep in mind that the majority of his internships took place while he was at school. So he would take 18-21 credits a quarter, plus work one to two internships at a time. Came summers he worked 80hrs/wk so he could have money to support himself with the internships because some were unpaid). So he calls us one day and said I’m buying myself my dream car. As parents we were concerned. But he was doing well, so what could we say. So he goes off to the dealership in SF, negotiates the car. They settle on a price and when the paperwork is being processed, S asked them, “Do you need a co-signer, since I’m only 22?” They said, “Did you graduate?” S said, “Yes a year ago from Stanford.” They said, “Just show us your diploma and we are set. We know you kids are golden!”

And off he drove with is new car.

(So yes schools of this caliber are ridiculously expensive, but in the long run, completely worth it. No one will ever convince me otherwise. There is a difference!)

We were in a similar situation as yourself. Last may my son needed to pick Stanford or a school with a full scholarship. He went to admit weekend in April and loved it. He just started this fall and we will have to take out loans but I know he is happy and that makes it worth it for me.

thanks for your post, except the decision was easier for us, since I have always told my D that the only school we are paying full fare is Stanford (had to turn down cheaper instate options such as Berkeley and UCLA, and other full scholarships to lesser ranked schools). She, too , just started last month and is loving every minute of it!

Congrats to both of you and your children. It is truly an accomplishment.

iska123,
I’m glad the decision was so easy for you. I started this thread because it was so scary for us. Just like NosyCaliparent, we had to take out a loan, but it was worth it. I think there are a lot of people out there who wonder if the extra expense is worth it. As I mentioned, we had so many people tell us we were crazy to spend almost $200K more for Stanford. And at the end of the day, and at that time it was hard to justify. But he did loved it. It was the right decision and in a heartbeat I would do it all over again. Good luck to your students.

I have told my D that she owes it more to my parents( her grandparents). They made the tremendous sacrifices to fund my education even with their meager income-- that then put me in a position to afford my own kids’ dream schools(without financial strain). Told my kids they have to pay it forward to their own kids!

I came from a family doing ok financially but there were two younger siblings who also wanted to attend college. It was a bit of strain financially for my parents. I was a TA junior, senior year and during my masters. It allowed me to get through with no loans.

I graduated from Stanford in 2013. I had many offers to join start-up companies in Silicon Valley from friends I met at Stanford. I decided to work at Facebook. When I told my father the offer from Facebook, he told me it had to be a mistake; that no company would make that kind of an offer to a young person with no work experience. It wasn’t until I emailed him the contract offer that he actually started believing it.

After receiving my signing bonus, I promptly paid my parents back in full. They didn’t ask for anything back but at that point I was in a position where money wasn’t going to be a problem.

I was raised in a small town in Pennsylvania. My mother had misgivings when I told her I decided on Stanford. She felt I might not have been mature enough to travel across the country and live on my own. Well, it turned out to be the best decision I have made thus far.

I would never recommend any student go into debt to get through school. However, if you major in a hard science at Stanford, you will be in position after graduating to quickly pay back any loans (provided the economy doesn’t collapse).

I will end by saying there are hundreds of outstanding universities throughout this country. If things don’t work out for someone to attend Stanford, there are countless other equally good options. For all the Stanford applicants, don’t sweat it if Stanford doesn’t recognize your talent, with a good work ethic you will turn out a success no matter where you go to school.

OP, I’m happy for your son’s success. I hope he is paying you back at least some of that money.

That’s fantastic! What a beautiful lesson.

Suzy100… My S is an amazing young man. He has always thanked us and been outrageously grateful. I thank God everyday that we were able to fund his college degree, so there is no need for him to pay me back monetarily. On the contrary, we have already been paid back tenfold. We are the fortunate parents that don’t have to worry if our son will have money to pay his rent or feed himself. Our sofa is ours to relax on. We don’t have to worry about our adult child living on it.

My mom once told me that all the effort, blood, sweat and tears that we put into our children is like money in the bank and someday we will collect our interest. (And we have.)

(Oh and btw last time S came home he literally walked in the door with a 65 inch curve flat screen TV. That was a little gift from him to share in his success. So he is very good to us.)

Googledrone…Thanks for sharing. You’re point is exactly what I wanted other parents to hear. Congrats on your success.

@Dungareedoll & @googledrone

Great story! There are alot of success stories on cc of people making the opposite decision. Nice to hear an even more successful story in favor of the high ranking schools.

What did you/he major in?

Thanks for sharing your son’s success. Congrats to all of you! Sounds like Stanford was a good fit for him. Your son’s commitment and willingness to work super hard and take advantage of all the opportunities that came his way and to make his own opportunities are another reason for his success - Stanford diploma or not. He sounds like a wonderful young man!

Thank you. S was a management science and engineering major.

My son is a human biology major that wants to study medicine. Many of my friends told us to get him into a cheap school for undergrad if he wants to go into medicine. My response was that you don’t get an opportunity to go to a place like Stanford very often so take it now. Besides I’m sure his major will change and even if it does not then his future is bright.

@Dungareedoll thank you for your post. Like others here, we too are at the start of our D’s college experience. Congrats to your son for his achievements.

@googledrone congrats to you as well.

Love your post and can’t imagine ever turning down Stanford. It’s one of the few schools that we would gladly pay full freight even if I had to sell my house to do it.

@nosycaliparent I agree with you. Interesting that was another aspect of the college process I always questioned. Kids change their major like they change their underwear! My S changed his three times before he arrived on campus freshman year. Then at least another 3 times while he was in school. Parents need to think about setting their kids up to the best of their ability from the beginning. All we know is the here and now.

Congrats to all the parents whose children are starting Stanford this year! Best of Luck!!!

@dungareedoll, you sound just like my own parents—made so much sacrifices to help all of their children succeed without expecting anything in return. And we all gave back, and made sure they are taken cared of, not out of duty, but because of our big gratitude for what they have done for us. And so we do the same for our own kids!!!

@Dungareedoll From what I read your son would have succeeded had he come out of his local community college. Props to him.

Stanford is a truly unique place with great people that is worth every penny. It’s not perfect, but it comes pretty close. The environment there is just so special. My D loved every minute of her 4 years there–I have never heard even one complaint. After graduation, she and all her friends have done very well in a wide variety of fields. Two teammates were just Olympians, while others have great jobs at both top established companies and new start-ups. Others have gone on to med school and law school. D’s older brother went Ivy and also did quite well, but he wears Stanford gear rather than apparel from his own school, and definitely follows the Cardinal football team. Make of that what you will.