When I look at other websites and people who got accepted from the result thread, their SAT and ACT score seemed to be lower than what the emory’s website says. I also read an article about how emory lied about their average sat and act score few years ago. I am asking this because I hope that they have lower average sat score than they listed on their website. I have 1400 on the SAT. Do you think this is too low for Oxford and Main Campus?
http://news.emory.edu/special/data_review/q_and_a.html
In the absence of contradictory data, I personally would assume the data is correct.
IMO, no. But scores are just one part of the application.
@atlantatata : Uhmm no. Do you see how low the traffic on Emory’s CC site is in comparison to other elites? Do you really think this provides strong sampling? Also, there are many admits who are well into the top quartile even from the threads. There are some people lower than the median, but generally many people who post on here are at least bottom quartile and even near the middle. Also, Emory lied about ENROLLED students (the biggest and likely most common trick in the book, there are other tricks trust me), not admitted. They generally reported the admitted stats to ranking agencies and manipulated enrolled stats some for others. Enrolled student stats generally are at least a little lower than admitted students (shave 50-70 off of the M/V section) because Emory is in serious (basically unwinnable) competition for the students it admits at the top quartile of its range.
Emory sort of has a bad rep for inflating their stats (don’t show stats of enrolled students, only accepted students). The actual students who enroll into the school have much lower grades, closer to that of Oxford’s (I’m saying this as an Emory student). Please take your essays seriously. Emory and many other schools have thousands of similar applicants who all have great gpas and test scores. Emory is an up and coming school that is the midst of changing its goals, and it wants to do this behind a student body of both intellectual and creative minds. They don’t want another “perfect student.” Use your essays to stand out and show how creative you are and that you think in a different mindset than every other applicant. Best of luck!
@skieurope : Here is what you need to see and it does not match the speculation made above my post, please see these files for the information on the “enrolled” student body at every unit of Emory (academic profiles):
http://opb.emory.edu/data/factbook/
Your only conclusion should be
a)Emory is a normal school in that enrollees have lower stats than admits
b)SAT differential between Emory and Oxford is irrelevant
c)GPA differential is actually much more noticeable (3.55 vs. 3.72 is certainly a bigger difference than 1336/1600 and 1365/1600 SAT…which is less than hair splitting)
d)Emory GPAs, assuming college board data is correct (it puts Emory at the bottom of its private peers by a bit SAT wise, so I am inclined to trust the GPA) would suggest that many students yielded are typically yielded from fairly competitive high schools (lower GPA brackets correspond to higher class-rank than even some “near peers”)
Regardless, there is currently no inflation. It is the same as every school (where you can typically only find enrolled data in a CDS if offered). Admit high, enroll lower. Nothing is new. Emory actually just admits much lower than most its peers (perhaps because stats whoring schools without a matching reputation don’t do too hot beyond admissions and Dean Latting, Dean of admissions, knows it) perhaps because it knows that it is futile to admit too high.
As for Emory being “up and coming”…well so are many peers. Emory just is much less aggressive (and let us be honest, even effective) at marketing and uses different admissions and recruitment strategies than some of the currently more popular peers. Input metrics make Emory look weaker than these schools on paper, but Emory is a little better than them or generally on par in terms of consistency of outputs (major post-grad scholarships, top grad and prof. school placement, etc). While I do not consider Emory to be quite a hidden gem, its admissions/incoming stats lead people to forget or ignore what I just mention. Instead the assumption is that Emory’s students must be “worse” than the ones at those peers, but things like course enrollment data (say for courses targeted at those freshmen coming in with AP credits or more advanced backgrounds), reveal this to be untrue, perhaps that the student body is more diverse or generally takes multiple choice tests worse, but again, hopefully, most college tests for most students are not only multiple choice, so differences between high scoring student bodies should not be predicted by differences in the scores but by other things (like depth of extracurricular activities, “well-rounded” versus “pointed” students. Emory airs on the more “pointed” side which may be why it can outperform versus an SAT prediction. At Emory, people are super serious about their supposedly already decided career goals or academic passions).
Emory and other schools disclose their enrolled student data and it shows up at among other places on collegedata.com.
Here’s the link to Emory’s enrolled student data:
http://www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/college_pg01_tmpl.jhtml?schoolId=1039
However, be forewarned that Emory’s accepted student stats are higher.