<p>Hey there</p>
<p>Is there a big difference between the two colleges ?
I have got into the kelley school at IUPUI as a direct admit which i wanted . I did not have the stats to enter bloomington as a direct admit so I applied to IUPUI so I really need to know whether there is a big difference between the two colleges.</p>
<p>Thanks a lot</p>
<p>I know there are a lot of great companies that recruit at the Bloomington campus, but I have no clue how many recruit at the Indianapolis campus. Perhaps you should contact an academic advisor at both schools and ask about the difference.</p>
<p>huge difference, iu-bloomington has the real b-school where everyone recruits and is the one that is ranked, the other is only a regular b-school having the same name b/c of the same university system</p>
<p>I know a graduate that attended both schools. He started in Bloomington and finished in Indianapolis. He actually preferred Indianapolis. He felt like he had more real world experiences as an undergrad there and more opportunities. He described several projects he did in Indianapolis that he would not have done in Bloomington. He had plenty of recruiting opportunities. I wouldn’t discount IUPUI as not being the “real deal.”</p>
<p>Thanks a lot</p>
<p>I would have to imagine the “teaching” might not be on the same par, in general. OBVIOUSLY the experience/life is different (IUPUI is full of older/night students…but then the intense med school). But…in the end…you have a degree from IU, right? If an interviewer specifically asks WHICH campus you’d have to say. Otherwise…who is going to know?</p>
<p>On your resume, it is typical to put the location of your school (or at least that is what my career perspectives class taught me).</p>
<p>yeah you have a point there but…Older/night students could you elaborate ???</p>
<p>I don’t think anyone ever ranks the IUPUI undergrad program, which may be a strike against it. The program seems watered down basic skills-wise compared to IUB. Only one communications class (no x104) and only one computer class (no X202). I-Core at IUPUI is only 9 credits, as opposed to 14 at IUB. None of the 300-400 level IUPUI Kelley classes can be applied the IUB Kelley degree. The students at IUB are probably much higher achievers than IUPUI. A lot of the I-Core prerequisites at IUPUI require only a D-; A100, A201, and A202 require only a D- at IUPUI. According to this report, 42% of IUPUI students did not even get a D- in A100.<br>
<a href=“http://uc.iupui.edu/uploadedFiles/Assessment/retentioninitiatives2007FINAL.pdf[/url]”>http://uc.iupui.edu/uploadedFiles/Assessment/retentioninitiatives2007FINAL.pdf</a></p>
<p>hmm but is IUPUI’s job placement grade on par with bloomington’s ?..and if the student manages to maintain a high GPA in IUPUI will the student get ample job opportunities ?</p>
<p>I’m kind of answering vague generalities, perceptions locally, so I probably shouldn’t weigh in. I went to IUPUI only for acting classes. Hahahaha! But, in general, I’d say if you asked anyone in this area, they’d tend to consider IUPUI more along the lines of a community college. Not the med school, of course. It’s fabulous. What I was saying about older students is that IUPUI has a lot of continuing education. Depends on the classes of course, and whether or not they’re held at night. But it’s where people in the city go to stay in/go back to college. Of course it’s not the same as, say Ivy Tech or ITT Tech 2 year type schools. Not at ALL. But I feel like it tends to be considered more of a community college than a “real” college. Perception. Now, employers may not feel that way. Though I am a potential emplloyer and do. BUT…I would not be employing anyone from the biz school anyway, so that may be very different. I can’t speak to their job placement at ALL. I do know a girl (friend of my D) who has taken IUPUI as a “fallback”, because it’s slightly cheaper for her than IU (and maybe she can live at home, I don’t know). But she intends to do the Community College transfer thing. Go to IUPUI for 2 years then transfer to IU for the next 2. Conversely, I know people who were at IU or Purdue who, for one reason or another, had to or decided to quit school…got a job in Indy (or went back home to Mom/Pop’s), and finished their education there. I’d say most would consider it a “downard” step . You already know you got accepted into one school but not the other, so …you can see the difference. BUT…doesn’t mean that IUPUI can’t be GREAT for you.</p>
<p>Bumping so maybe someone with more REAL knowledge can answer your question with more facts.</p>
<p>IUPUI-Kelly and IUB- Kelly are the same school,which means they are the same in regards to what MUST be covered in the courses. Going to kelly is going to kelly weather at IUB or IUPUI.</p>
<p>Kelley IUB and Kelley IUPUI are NOT the same school. Huge differences in I-Core prerequisites, I-Core itself, graduation requirements, direct admit requirements, transferability of community college credits, residency requirements for degree, demographics of student populations, perceived value of the degrees.</p>
<p>I agree with bthomp1; not the the same school. Differences in classes, job prospects, and location = different school.</p>
<p>Also, the name is Kelley.</p>
<p>For those who are not acccepted to the business school (Kelley) in Bloomington, quite often the choice is not to take another major in Bloomington–such as SPEA or Economics, but instead to major in business at one of the other Indiana University campuses.</p>
<p>My son’s girlfriend took this route–and is doing quite well at her campus in South Bend, Indiana near her home. Since her major, accounting, is one that you can essentially pursue most anywhere, it will probably not make quite as big a deal in job prospects as had she been pursuing something like Finance, Entrepreneurship, Operations Management or Marketing when she was at Bloomington.</p>
<p>P.S. At her school, the I-core prerequisites and course requirements are the same as at Bloomington (and since CPA candidates now need 150 hours, she saves money by living at home while whe takes the additional courses).</p>
<p>I am an undergraduate at the Kelley School of Business @ IUPUI. I transferred from IU Bloomington (as a direct admit there), and I can say that the program is just as intense. The requirements are different, and the Icore at IUPUI is 12 credit hours compared to 14 at IUB; However you get the same level of education. Earlier someone mentioned that the Kelley School of Business @ IUPUI wasn’t nationally ranked, and that is a lie. When you see a ranking for the Kelley School, it includes both campuses because they ARE the same school. When you graduate with an Indiana University, Kelley School of Business degree it is an honor no matter which campus you attended. Employers know that Indiana University and Ed Kelley wouldn’t risk put their names on a program or degree that wasn’t to a high and equal standard. You could be recruited from either campus (not just Bloomington) and in all honesty you have more internship opportunities in Indianapolis than you could ever find in Bloomington. In closing, I just want to reiterate that one campus isn’t better than the other, they are just different. IUPUI is an urban campus that consists of mostly commuter students. Commuter means most students live at home or off campus and drive. Bloomington is a rural, traditional college where most students live on campus. They hold the same education standards and both prepare you for the future.</p>
<p>Kelley IUPUI is much easier to get into direct admit than Kelley IUPUI. 1100 SAT CR/M and 3.2 gpa in hs will get direct admit to Kelley IUPUI. IUB Kelley requires 1270 SAT CR/M and 3.7 gpa.
[Direct</a> Admissions: Prospective Students: Admissions: Undergraduate Programs: Kelley School of Business: IUPUI Indianapolis](<a href=“Admissions | Bachelor's Degree in Business | Kelley Indianapolis”>Admissions | Bachelor's Degree in Business | Kelley Indianapolis)</p>
<p>Kelley IUPUI is I-core only nine credits, not 12. IUB is 14 credits.
[Integrative</a> Core: Academics: Undergraduate Programs: Kelley School of Business: IUPUI Indianapolis](<a href=“Academics | Bachelor's Degree in Business | Kelley Indianapolis”>Academics | Bachelor's Degree in Business | Kelley Indianapolis)</p>
<p>You only need 3.3 gpa to apply for Kelley IUPUI honors. IUB Kelley you need 3.7.
[The</a> Honors Program: Academics: Undergraduate Programs: Kelley School of Business: IUPUI Indianapolis](<a href=“Academics | Bachelor's Degree in Business | Kelley Indianapolis”>Academics | Bachelor's Degree in Business | Kelley Indianapolis)</p>
<p>IU Kelley will not accept for transfer any 300-400 level business classes from IUPUI.</p>
<p>The are the same. I prefer IUPUI Kelley though ,because there are more opportunities to learn outside the classroom.</p>
<p>ICORE at IUPUI is 12 credit hours. Below is a link to an example 4 year degree map there.</p>
<p><a href=“http://kelley.iupui.edu/files/4813/7511/0007/iupui_degree_map_template__management.pdf”>http://kelley.iupui.edu/files/4813/7511/0007/iupui_degree_map_template__management.pdf</a></p>
<p>ICORE at IUB is 14 credit hours. Below is a link to an example 4 year degree map there.</p>
<p><a href=“http://ud.iub.edu/docs/4-year_plan_documents/bus_sequence_map01-08-2009.pdf”>http://ud.iub.edu/docs/4-year_plan_documents/bus_sequence_map01-08-2009.pdf</a></p>
<p>The state of Indiana passed the House Enrolled Act 1220, which requires all bachelors degrees to be 120 credit hours. This means that no matter which campus you go to it will take 120 credits to graduate. IUPUI has a broader general education requirement to shape a well rounded student, where bloomington has less of a general education requirement for business. Either way, you will be prepared to be successful in the business world.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.in.gov/che/files/120312_RELEASE_-_Legislative_Recap.pdf”>http://www.in.gov/che/files/120312_RELEASE_-_Legislative_Recap.pdf</a></p>
<p>Lastly, IUPUI does not accept any 300 or 400 level classes from bloomington either. This is because of the residency requirement to fulfil the degree. The Indiana University Kelley School of Business is an all around rigorous and prestigious school, the only question is which campus do you prefer. I’d recommend checking them both out and seeing which one feels more like home.</p>
<p>I don’t know how you can sat that “IUPUI does not accept any 300 or 400 level classes from bloomington either.” According to the latest IUPUI Kelley bulletin, IUPUI accepts 300 and 400 level business credit from hundreds of schools:</p>
<p>“Courses in upper-division business subjects (300-and 400-level courses) may be accepted for specific equivalency if the course work is taken in the junior or senior year at a four-year institution that is accredited by the Association to Advance Collegiate Schools Business (AACSB).” page 28.
<a href=“IUPUI”>IUPUI;
<p>Also, page 12 mentions IUPUI accepts I-core classes done at Bloomington, Columbus, and at campuses other than IUPUI, IUPUC, and IU-Bloomington.</p>
<h2>Also, I don’t see how the Indianapolis and Bloomington ugrad Kelley programs can be equally rigorous when acceptance to the program is much harder to achieve at IU Bloomington. A student can apply for acceptance to IUPUI Kelley, theoretically, for example, if they have all solid D’s in E201, E202, A201, A202, and M119 and all solid B’s in the rest of the classes listed below under Option II admission. The Option II admissions criteria don’t sound high enough for a top ten-nationally ranked business school.</h2>
<p>Option II</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Complete 56 credit hours of college-level course work that count toward graduation, with an overall cumulative GPA of 2.0 or higher. This course work may be taken at Indiana University or at another accredited institution</p></li>
<li><p>Successfully complete the following courses, with an average GPA of 2.0 or higher:<br>
• BUS-A 100 Business Accounting Skills
• BUS-A 201 Introduction to Financial Accounting
• BUS-A 202 Introduction to Managerial Accounting
• BUS-L 203 Commercial Law I
• ECON-E 201 Introduction to Microeconomics
• ECON-E 202 Introduction to Macroeconomics
• ECON-E 270 Introduction to Statistical Theory
• MATH-M 118 Finite Mathematics
• MATH-M 119 Brief Survey of Calculus I</p></li>
<li><p>Complete the following courses with a grade of “C” or higher in each course:
• ENG-W 131 Elementary Composition I or equivalent
• BUS-K 201 The Computer in Business</p></li>
</ol>
<h2>Kelley IUPUI Bulletin, page 5</h2>
<p>I am not trying to “brag” on IUB Kelley or “diss” IUPUI Kelley ugrad. I would just hate to see some OOS student fail to get into IUB and then transfer to IUPUI with the expectation that they can get comparable recruiting opportunities with national and regional firms through IUPUI’s career services offices that can be had in Bloomington (and no, IUPUI students are not allowed to use IUB’s career services and vice versa).</p>