Is there really a thing called love at first sight?

<p>It's a TERRIBLY LONG RANT. Please forgive me. I realize after typing this 10-page essay out that it doesn't even have much to do with the thread title. </p>

<h2>VERY SORRY. SIGH. </h2>

<p>Prompted by Valentine's Day of course, but not quite directly. </p>

<p>Anyway, I was watching Sleepless in Seattle tonight and I only watched the first half where she just suddenly changes heart cuz of something called "fate." Of course, it got corny and more unbelievable then and I turned off the TV, just to wonder about my own situation.</p>

<p>I know that "falling in love at first sight" is a movie thing. It's Hollywood, the fantasy romantic storyline, etcetcetc. I used to think it was shallow, the most unbelievably fake thing in the world, and something people just think about cuz they were rebounding some other relationship or something. </p>

<p>But lots of perceptions change when they happen to you in real life. You cannot deny this happens to you with lots of other stereotypes too.</p>

<p>So let me tell you my situation. I can tell you right now I'm trying my best to speak about this in the most objective way possible. I am seriously not trying to pull out correlations or blow them up in proportion just to work in my favor.</p>

<p>Anyway, there is this guy I met once at a conference. Long story short, we were attached to each other almost immediately at the conference. I don't know why, but he looked a lot like my 3rd grade crush...which is why I got attracted to him in the first place. I thought he was the same guy, but when I asked it turned out he wasn't. He went to a school 30 miles away.</p>

<p>Throughout the conference, we stuck to each other pretty much the entire time. We were shy people and we didn't really do much talking outside of our little space. We got assigned to the same group (which was interesting..out of the 160 people, we were assigned to the same group of 8) and all the people in our group could feel we liked each other or something. Last day of the 4 day conference, there was a dance. You can imagine what happened there.</p>

<p>After four days, we said our goodbyes. I never thought I would see him again. It was August 2007.</p>

<p>Zoom to April 2008. We still kept in contact, but were busy with Junior/Senior year (i was a junior and he was a senior). He suddenly asks me in our conversation if I want to go to Senior Ball with him. I, flabbergasted, say I'd have to think about it. After all, he lived 30 miles away. My parents, who are overprotective to the max, were likely to reject it. I saw a 10% chance I would be allowed to go.</p>

<p>Two weeks later, after a bunch of persuading, I was allowed to go. My friends were surprised. Even my mom was surprised my dad would allow me to go. </p>

<p>May 2008, we saw each other for the 2nd time of our lives. He apparently went without his friends, so we spent the night together just having fun and all that romantic crap lol. I was really surprised -- I didn't know he was the only one from his group of friends that actually took the initiative to go...because of me? I don't know lol. Later, I fell asleep on his shoulder on the limo, wishing it missed my stop so it could last for 30 mins longer.</p>

<p>It did miss my stop.</p>

<p>And so I got back cuz his dad drove me home. I got back home at 1 am, put the corsage on my bedside, and went to sleep.</p>

<p>That was the last time I ever saw him. Now he's 2000 miles away in his college and enjoying life there. </p>

<p>The thing that bugs me the most about this entire thing is just the whole "fate" thing.
1) I almost didn't go to this conference -- only after the committee decided that late applications were accepted was I allowed to go
2) I got assigned in the same group.
3) He looked like my 3rd grade crush. Only guy in my life who's ever looked like him.
4) It seemed very much that he liked me back. My group mates couldn't have been imagining things
5) He asked me to senior ball, despite the millions of other people nearer to him he could have asked. Plus my parents let me go. This was seriously 1:1,000,000 chance.
6) What I wished for came true. We missed my stop. We also had a really nice night together.</p>

<p>Point and said, We've only met each other twice and what happens in a relationship normally has condensed into a ridiculous time block of a total of 5 days. I know we liked each other and I know this would have developed if we had lived closer together. And I really am not a person to push things and neither does he. We're both really shy people and we're not bloodthirsty for love. I just think fate is playing with me, letting ALL these things happen. I mean, one way or another, lots of things could have happened and I would have never known him in the first place. </p>

<p>I dunno. After I type this all out, you probably think I'm just all stupid. Even I think I'm stupid. I like this guy obviously, he's shown signs of liking me back, it's just retarded cuz of distance. His high school was way too far away from mine and now his college is way farther to the max.</p>

<p>Sigh, sorry for going all emo/rant on you guys. I just want some advice or some person to respond. I feel retarded for going on CC and spilling my guts out.</p>

<p>I hope you understand. Thanks in advance to anyone who applies. I feel slightly better now.</p>

<p>i guess, if you believe in fate... then nothing would have stopped you meeting this guy, and nothing stops him being too far away. if you actually do think the universe is cheating you, then isn't that relinquishing your own right to decide?</p>

<p>what exactly is the problem?</p>

<p>the way i see it, yes, so many things could have stopped you meeting this guy, but they didn't, and this was all purely chance. you don't know how many times you've nearly died, nearly been hit by a car or something, but something caught your eye and you stepped onto the road a moment later than you would have.</p>

<p>Problem:
- Fate seems to be tugging at me, but fate's an easy thing to believe in and make a wrong decision for
- If I follow my heart, I'll still continue to like him. If I follow my head, I will say the distance is too far and I'm investing too much in someone I've only met twice.
- The thing about "3rd time's the charm" bugs me a lot. </p>

<p>I just realized all this happened in 2007 and now it's 2009. Wow..i'm kinda lame for not having done anything lol</p>

<p>What do you even mean by "fate"?</p>

<p>I believe in fate. I believe in destiny. Actually a similar thing happened/is happening to me now. Except i've never really met this guy and im meeting him today...even though its in a group(dont ask how this is working out..it just is).</p>

<p>So really, hollywood fantasies DO have to stem out from some real-life experiences. So, yes, I do believe in love and first sight. </p>

<p>g'luck...im hoping only for the absolute best for you :)</p>

<p>No offense, but I don't believe in fate since I believe in God. If you believe in God, you would know that He gave us free will to make our own choices--how else do you think there is evil in the world--because people choose to use free will for evil. SO, no. It's not fate. It's luck coincidence. Our futures may be known by God since He is omniscient, but not predetermined. He only knows what we will choose to do ourselves and will not intervene so to speak. </p>

<p>Also, you cannot have love at first sight, per say---based on a glance only would mean it was LUST at first sight. But after talking for a few minutes and connecting--now that's more like love at first sight (or meeting)...I believe in that, and that this is what you experienced. Love at first sight should really be called love at first meeting or something...</p>

<p>Anyways, what happened to you is an amazing experience: a connection with someone when all odds were against you. If I were you, I would try to work things out. You should not let this pass you by. Do you still keep in touch with him in college? Do you plan to go to a college near him? If you give us more details, perhaps we could help you find a solution easier.</p>

<p>@ INVEINEMNAM lol -- In my definition, I see fate as something underwritten by some omniscient being. As in, things were either planned out beforehand and you're living it right now OR some person (for instance, God) might be directing your life as He deems fit. </p>

<p>@ hardworker -- good luck at your meeting today. I hope you have a good time today :P It's good to know at least someone believes what I'm saying is here.</p>

<p>@ coffee -- Yeah, I agree that it isn't love at first "sight" necessarily. But I must have to say it's the closest legitimate form of that saying after I got to know more about him and stuff. But having him look like my 3rd grade crush to get my attention kinda falls sorta into place, no?</p>

<p>Thanks for all your comments so far. I really appreciate them all. But yeah, after all this happened, he and I have talked less since he's focusing on college. He's in the midwest and I only applied to East and West colleges even though I tried asking my parents if I could just apply to his college just for kicks (since they give you a free trip there once you get accepted...). </p>

<p>Yeah, I really don't know what to do. I don't even know if he has the same feelings anymore or anything. Too far away to tell.</p>

<p>If it really is fate, shouldn't you guys end up at the same college or have some other turn of events that lets you guys reunite?</p>

<p>Anyways, for my views on free will, here's an old joke:
There was a really bad flood, and this guy is trapped on the roof of his house which will soon go under. He is a very devout man so he prays to God asking for God to save him. Soon, a helicopter rescue team comes by and tries to save him but he declines and says that God will save him. Next, a rescue ship comes by trying to save him but again he declines and says that God will save him. Finally, a neighbor rows by him on his boat as he's rowing towards higher ground and safety, and asks the man if he wants to come along, and again the man turns him down and says that God will save him. The waters keep rising and eventually the man drowns.
When he gets to Heaven, he asks God, "I'm a devout man. When I was praying for help, why didn't you save me?"
God replies, "I sent you help three times, but every time you turned it down."</p>

<p>moral of the story: If you really think this is worth pursuing, go after it.</p>

<p>^ lol that's really interesting. ...WAIT LOL MY STORY. Frick, lol did I use up two chances already? Oh god, lol that scares me.</p>

<p>Ahaha, well I somewhat think this is fate, but I don't think college will bring us together based on the fact I applied to colleges nowhere near his. I dunno, I have a funny feeling I'll either 1) another guy will come my way during college and I'll realize this was all a big joke or 2) we'll meet sometime within the next 4 years and something awesome will happen.</p>

<p>What REALLY would be cool is if I met the guy after college and I come back to this thread 4 years later to see how much I panicked as a high school student :P</p>

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No offense, but I don't believe in fate since I believe in God. If you believe in God, you would know that He gave us free will to make our own choices--how else do you think there is evil in the world--because people choose to use free will for evil. SO, no. It's not fate. It's luck coincidence. Our futures may be known by God since He is omniscient, but not predetermined. He only knows what we will choose to do ourselves and will not intervene so to speak.

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How 'bout Calvinism? Or really anyone that believes in predestination? I know several "Christians" who believe in this and don't at ALL think that God gave them "free will" or whatever you call it. Soo, uh, believing in fate and in God are not mutually exclusive.</p>

<p>I believe in what I call "mutual love at first sight." This is probably the commonly accepted definition, but that both people know that they are destined to have some kind of future together. This hasn't happened to me yet, so I can't say much more.</p>

<p>thread of long posts.
im breaking the trend.
and yes. i believe in love at first site. that happened to me.</p>

<p>@ INVENIAMVIAM: But if you are Christian and don't believe in free will, then how do you reason why there is evil in the world. God does not create evil or send evil to test us-that in itself is evil and God is not evil. Therefore, humans must be the ones who create evil--we take the innately good gift of free will that God gave us to make choices and can choose to sin and to do evil. It's the same as me taking something normally not evil like a baseball bat and using that bat to commit an evil act like hitting someone over the head with it...</p>

<p>I believe God has an ultimate plan for us to be with Him in heaven-but we can choose to reject it. In the same way, we can choose the path that leads us to that ultimate goal of being with Him. That is why I see failed logic in Calvinism and such b/c if you don't believe in free will, then God has to be partly evil--which they contradictorily believe as well.</p>

<p>I don't mean to start a debate. I just want to share my insight into the matter. </p>

<p>Anyways CrystalProphecy, I would try to talk to him and casually ask him how college is. Maybe if you start talking about his college and where you applied, you could mention visiting or something...idk. Whatever you do, I would try not to lose touch with him too much. Just drop hints here or there and see what happens.</p>

<p>**And speaking of fate-anyone seen the movie Serendipity with Kate Beckinsale and John Cusak? Great movie!!!</p>

<p>Love at first sight doesn't exist.</p>

<p>What you're talking about is hormones.</p>

<p>^ take out the "teenage" and it'll be all correct</p>

<p>You have yourself there a silly little crush. You'll undoubtedly have tons of them yet to come. Don't dwell on them.</p>

<p>I have just now christened my left big toe "love at first sight." So yes indeed, there is such a thing.</p>

<p>i love these kinda stories.. they get me all mushhy inside lol and then i realize 'why can't that happen to me?'</p>

<p>i dont think so. and how superficial a thing would it be if it does happen.</p>

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@ INVENIAMVIAM: But if you are Christian and don't believe in free will, then how do you reason why there is evil in the world. God does not create evil or send evil to test us-that in itself is evil and God is not evil. Therefore, humans must be the ones who create evil--we take the innately good gift of free will that God gave us to make choices and can choose to sin and to do evil. It's the same as me taking something normally not evil like a baseball bat and using that bat to commit an evil act like hitting someone over the head with it...

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Well I'm not a Christian, so don't ask me. Personally, it makes no sense whatsoever, because I've always thought that the POINT of Christianity was to, like, make your own decision to believe la la la and repent and whatnot. Anyway though, I know several Christians who say that there is no free will (and by that, they don't actually mean "no free will," because that makes perfect sense, but they think we don't even make decisions for ourselves, like, no will whatsoever or something, I dunno what they think, lol, all I know is that these people happen to think that God makes all our decisions for us or something, and that our whole life is already decided anyway [thus predestination, supposedly] and that we're silly little God-driven puppets).</p>

<p>Aww I believe in believing in love at first sight. I know emotionally, and biologically it's just lust....but still, having experienced something like it, I can't just admit that it's nothing.</p>

<p>That feeling is different than any sort of a normal crush, (I'm pretty much an expert in those), it's SO much more intense (weak in the knees, hard to breathe, all that jazz) I believe lust can go on for a month, maybe two not longer. So what do you call it if that intense feeling doesn't fade for years?</p>