<p>I thought they only used CR and M but am I reading this correctly that now it'll be the 2400 score?</p>
<p>UT says they started using all 3 scores for the class of 2009. I think individual schools vary, though. I think Engineering still uses only Math/CR</p>
<p>Looks like it. Good news for ds!</p>
<p>I’ve heard that they are but I have not seen an updated version of the admissions formula so I couldn’t tell you for sure.</p>
<p>I know that for 2008 they only used English and Math for the ACT, not Reading, Science, or Writing.</p>
<p>Sure are a lot of quick changes lately.</p>
<p>Youdon’tsay, why would you say that? If you are instate it’s all about the top 10%, right?</p>
<p>Do you think a non-top10% kid can get in with just a high SAT score? I’m not very well informed on this, but have been told there’s almost no chance.</p>
<p>The top 10% instate will get you into UT. That alone won’t get you into engineering. Their primary emphasis for admittance to engineering is class rank and SAT/ACT scores. The other stuff does not seem to matter much.</p>
<p>As far as a non-10% student chances for getting in to engineering, it depends on how high the class rank and how high the test scores.</p>
<p>Ds isn’t interested in engineering. I only wrote that because his writing score from the June 6 SAT (we just got the scores this a.m.) was a 780 so if it’s used in the decision-making, then a 780 will work in his favor.</p>
<p>No, he’s not in top 10%, so he needs the help his strong SAT scores can give him. But, yeah, I think he has a decent shot at getting in. Many kids from his HS outside the top 10% get in.</p>
<p>Duh! Where’s my V-8! It’s because of the new Top 10% changes which includes the 1500/2400 stipulation. </p>
<p>There’s so many changes - no summer fish, sig classes, Math I thrown out and the ALEKS or whatever at the last minute (after everyone just took the Math I)</p>
<p>Whoa, Whoa, Math I thrown out? So you can’t use Math I for engineering anymore? Where can I find that?</p>
<p>If that’s so, then my son is going to be majorly PO’D!! He thought he was DONE!</p>
<p>Nevermind - He’s okay, I just checked the site and unless they change it before August 1 he’s good with two of the readiness indicators.</p>
<p><a href=“http://bealonghorn.utexas.edu/freshmen/admission/majors/engineering/index.html[/url]”>http://bealonghorn.utexas.edu/freshmen/admission/majors/engineering/index.html</a></p>
<p>nunya, </p>
<ol>
<li>The new top ten law doesn’t apply for next year’s admissions cycle</li>
</ol>
<p>and </p>
<ol>
<li>The SAT Score requirement didn’t make it into the final bill.</li>
</ol>
<p>The Lege is going into special session. Let’s hope they ignore this, ag54.</p>
<p>ag54 -</p>
<p>Someone said a couple weeks ago the Natural Science Dept. suddently decided on the ALEKS instead of the Math I. I’m thinking the Sci Dept is cutting expenses and trying out a new program involving this ALEKS thing. I haven’t heard any other depts going to that program but they might if UT likes it. Of course it might not go over at all and be dumped after a year or so.</p>
<p>LoneRanger - </p>
<p>Yes, both houses approved the SAT/ACT requirement and Perry signed it on June 19. </p>
<p>[81(R)</a> SB 175 - Enrolled version - Bill Text](<a href=“http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/81R/billtext/html/SB00175F.htm]81(R)”>81(R) SB 175 - Enrolled version - Bill Text)</p>
<p>The new SAT/ACT requirement is in the TX Education Code: </p>
<p>[EDUCATION</a> CODE CHAPTER 51. PROVISIONS GENERALLY APPLICABLE TO HIGHER EDUCATION](<a href=“http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/ED/content/htm/ed.003.00.000051.00.htm]EDUCATION”>http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/ED/content/htm/ed.003.00.000051.00.htm)</p>
<p>Granted, the ruling changes don’t go in effect until fall 2011 but it looks like UT started the SAT 2400 score immediately: </p>
<p>“Use of scores in admission decisions (Summer/Fall 2009 and beyond) read more
The Office of Admissions will begin using SAT/ACT writing scores when making admission decisions beginning with applicants to Summer/Fall 2009. UT Austin will use your ACT/SAT score, including your writing score, from a single test date as one of the items that make up your academic achievement.”</p>
<p>[Testing</a> | Freshmen | Be a Longhorn](<a href=“http://bealonghorn.utexas.edu/freshmen/admission/testing/index.html]Testing”>http://bealonghorn.utexas.edu/freshmen/admission/testing/index.html)</p>
<p>So, I’m assuming that the “writing” score for the ACT will be that combined English/essay score. Is that so?</p>
<p>I have no idea. Up til now they’ve just used the English score for ACT–not even the Reading Section.</p>
<p>And nunya, the 1500 score only applies if you don’t complete the recommended plan, which almost all top ten applicants do anyways.</p>
<p>If they are, they haven’t updated the Academic Index formula that they’ve published to account for the change.</p>
<p>The Top Ten Report published in December 2008 included identical indeces to the year before.</p>
<p>And what bealonghorn has to say on the matter:</p>
<p>"The Office of Admissions will begin using SAT/ACT writing scores when making admission decisions beginning with applicants to Summer/Fall 2009. UT Austin will use your ACT/SAT score, including your writing score, from a single test date as one of the items that make up your academic achievement. "</p>
<p>But I have been unable to find any research on the utexas website which shows a new formula that reflects this change, and have seen data published since the change that would make it seem like they didn’t change at all.</p>
<p>“Many kids from his HS outside the top 10% get in.”</p>
<p>Sorry to harp on this, but is that info recent? </p>
<p>My son goes to an excellent HS and has taken AP everything except English. We haven’t gotten the rankings, but his gpa is around 4.97/6 or 3.3/4. His ACT was 32 and SAT is 1980/2400. He will most likely be around 15%. </p>
<p>My understanding is that no way these numbers could get him into UT and he’s not inclined to CAP, so he isn’t even planning to apply. </p>
<p>What kinds of statistics DID the kids that you know have?</p>
<p>thanks!</p>
<p>ATINTM - </p>
<p>i have seen some kids get in outside of the top 10, but i think it is that they were in oddball (not that popular) majors or something.</p>
<p>i suppose you could apply, but i wouldn’t get hopes up.</p>
<p>my dd has higher GPA than your son and a little lower test scores. those grades place her at 17 - 19%. she will not CAP and will not be applying to UT.</p>