<p>So she doesn’t get to be a freshman there and enjoy the “magic” of four years at her dream school. For all we know she will hook up with some community college mouth breather and decide the dream wasn’t worth it anyway.</p>
<p>actually mooop suggested that by combining AP credit and summer community college, OP’s daughter accumulates enough credit to graduate in 3 years. I’m not sure it’s doable at Nova, but it’s not “attending CC for a year”.</p>
<p>Right now, everybody’s responding to Mooop and no one is responding to OP, who seems to have vanished. If OP doesn’t return soon, I’m afraid the thread is going to get closed.</p>
<p>Sally & Lucy…read para 7 of my long post a couple pages back. She does frosh year at cc only in unlkely event she can’t patch together a year’s credits from A.P. exams and summer classes. If she’s not willing to go to vu for just 3 yrs, then hello st. Joe.</p>
<p>" And Hanna thinks…"</p>
<p>I won’t repeat the absurdity you attributed to me. Please do not put words in my mouth.</p>
<p>“my own parents made MY dreams come true”</p>
<p>Mine too. Speaking as the luckiest kind of student in the world (my parents paid for my dream college AND law school, as well as 15 years of private pre-K through 12), I’m pretty sure disappointment in my parents’ commitment to my education is not the source of my opinions.</p>
<p>what’s so un doable about graduating in 3 years instead of 4 based on a.p. credits and cc classes? People do it . Hanna read ur own post re vacations and 2nd homes.</p>
<p>You have your own agenda, mooops. You are not reading what the poster has stated.</p>
<p>One problem is that you are assuming the student can graduate in three years without knowing if this is actually possible. What happens if it is not? What happens if his kid gets mono and needs to take fewer classes but can’t . What happens if she cannot get the classes she needs because she has not had time to fulfill the prerequisites. There is no room in your plan if the least little thing goes wrong. Then what? </p>
<p>You are suggesting that his daughter attend community college for two years. Really? The OP already told you he would like her to attend and live at college for the whole experience.</p>
<p>You are telling the poster how to cut his expenses by cutting out the maid, the spa, the high end booze, the fancy vacations when you have no idea what his finances actually are at this moment.</p>
<p>In other words you are not listening to the poster and you are not helping. </p>
<p>moooop, you’ll get a lot further with the people on CC if you quit acting like you’re the one with all the answers. We really are a nice group here, and quite intelligent as well. Try putting your dukes down and quit fighting us.</p>
<p>I’m going to shovel my driveway. Y’all have fun distorting what I said. Ciao.</p>
<p><a href=“https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/vpaa/studentservices/policies/transfercredits.html”>https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/vpaa/studentservices/policies/transfercredits.html</a></p>
<p>Let’s put the summer CC courses to bed with the facts. They will not take them under most circumstances.</p>
<p><a href=“https://www1.villanova.edu/content/dam/villanova/VSB/undergrad/forms/vsb_handbook1013.pdf”>https://www1.villanova.edu/content/dam/villanova/VSB/undergrad/forms/vsb_handbook1013.pdf</a></p>
<p>Here’s the undergraduate handbook. </p>
<p>I do agree with whoever suggested that the parent call Villanova and state that it is and has been the students #1 choice from the beginning but that they would need a merit scholarship to attend. </p>
<p>It’s worth a shot.</p>
<p>Not so fast sax. Looks like she cud take cc classes this summer and pre-approved ones at west Chester after that. Depending on her a.p… credits she might need only a few of.these classes.</p>
<p>Getting pre-approval for classes at a different school is not all that easy. When my kid was at Penn he practically needed a presidential order to take 2 classes at Vanderbilt while he was home for the summer!</p>
<p>Mom, do you give up on everything that isn’t easy? Maybe it will be hard to get aporoval. Thats not the same as impossible.</p>
<p>That’s not the point, mooop. The point is–it’s VILLANOVA, not Stanford or Harvard or Princeton. You are taking an absurd stance on this for a college that is virtually indistinguishable from many others in key ways, for a student who is planning to pursue a career for which the name on the diploma doesn’t matter much.</p>
<p>The other problem with your grandiose ideas is that they are unlikely to be set in stone by May 1–meaning the OP’s daughter could go to great lengths only to have the whole plan fall apart later on.</p>
<p>mooop- Too bad your driveway isn’t longer. I don’t give up easily. My son took his Vanderbilt courses- but HE got the approval. I’m just saying the Great and Mighty Villanova might flat say “no” to West Chester courses. Wouldn’t surprise me.</p>
<p>I suspect you (Moooop) are a reincarnation of a previous poster. Do tell us your old screen name!</p>
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<p>I don’t have a side. I don’t see why Villanova is worth all these twists and turns (spending a year at a CC, going into debt, radically changing family lifestyle etc.). No college is. Financial foolishness does not prove parental love. The OP is in the best position to decide what is or is not possible. None of the rest of us can do this, and calling people bad parents because they won’t live like monks to fund some OK regional university is not going to alter that. The best gift you can give your kid IMHO is a debt free education at an institution that meets her needs.</p>
<p>I must be missing something. The policy states that if the same course is offered by Villanova ,even virtually, then course cannot be taken elsewhere. So I must be missing the West Chester point somewhere.</p>
<p>So the daughter would have to know which courses she would need to take this summer at CC that would be accepted and not already credited by her AP courses and get then into them this summer. To take classes in delaware county CC you have to actually enroll in the CC. I don’t know how Villanova would even begin to deal with this. Then the classes would have to be offered and also have openings.</p>
<p>Most important I think this insane puzzle has so many holes and what ifs that the opportunity for error is huge. I also think this is way too much stress to put on an 18 year old who has not even finished high school.</p>
<p>And the stress is very real. </p>
<p>Good grief, you want her to head to college happy, nervous and excited. Not stressed to the max.</p>
<p>I’m done. </p>
<p>I think this young lady can excel and be very happy at St Joes.</p>
<p>“The point is–it’s VILLANOVA, not Stanford or Harvard or Princeton. You are taking an absurd stance on this for a college that is virtually indistinguishable from many others in key ways, for a student who is planning to pursue a career for which the name on the diploma doesn’t matter much.”</p>
<p>Very well said. It is clear to most everyone here that Villanova is a bad idea given the OP’s circumstances. I picture the OP in massive debt in 10-years saying, “we finally had our daughter talked out of Villanova, then changed our minds at the last minute because this dude named 'moooop” on CC told us to go for it", lol.</p>
<p>When I posted the question, Is Villanova worth it" I never dreamed of this kind of thread and where it seems to be heading. Allow me to clear a few things up…again. First, I never said I couldn’t afford it, I simply asked if it was worth the 100K over my D #2. As for tapping the 401k idea, yes, I agree it;s not the smartest thing in the world to do, but like one parent suggested, if there is enough in there to do it and still not worry about retiring, why not… instead of putting my D in a position of heavy debt and changing lifestyles. I do however really like the post “it might be crazy to spend $200k on the right college, but it might be even crazier to spend $150k on the wrong college”. Maybe we were not the kind of parents who did all the homework and ranked all the colleges, we allowed our kids to research where they wanted to go, what they wanted to study and supported them in every way possible. Both have chosen not to go far from home and what they want to study as of now. I guess I know why there are over 52 flavors of ice cream, not everyone likes chocolate or vanilla. Hey, we all have an opinion, and that’s fine…but can we stick to the question “Is Villanova worth it” and not get into if my D is a diva or not, or spoiled, or what we should of done as parents…or what colleges YOU think my D should attend, I know some of you have great intentions, but others are down right out of line or off course. </p>