<p>Jackdaniels. I’m sorry you didn’t get in. </p>
<p>That doesn’t mean they waitlist everyone. Perhaps you ought to instead focus on how you can be constructive to help the class of 2015</p>
<p>@motion12345</p>
<p>WHOAHH!!! that is awesome!!! i totes did not read that before posting my last reply!!!</p>
<p>I got rejected. 29 ACT (probably what did it). Great essays (edited and loved by my Wash U interviewer herself). 3.8 unweighted GPA at a private competitive high school at the top of the class. A handful of AP’s, eagle scout, tons of service, blah blah. Hope that helps everyone else that got rejected or whatever lol.</p>
<p>Alright, screw you all because I got rejected.
However, I would like to note that there is clear bias in this. People who were rejected are FAR less likely to publicly admit they have been rejected. Additionally, people who have been rejected may not follow college confidential as religiously.</p>
<p>So stop saying this. There is SO much bias. And it is rude and disrespectful to say for those who WERE rejected. It sucks.</p>
<p>Got rejected as well - and this thread is kind of ridiculous.</p>
<p>There is definitely a lot of bias on these forums, but it’s been echoed elsewhere. I don’t think anyone really knows how many people are waitlisted vs. how many people are outrightly rejected, but the waitlist is very long - there’s no doubt about that.</p>
<p>In these here parts, Wash U.'s nickname is “Waitlist U.”</p>
<p>But seriously, folks, I know 4 students who were waitlisted at Wash U. in the past two years; all four were, ultimately, admitted. The four found out over varying times during summer, and all four were committed to another great school, by then, happily. One found out right before, literally, she was off to UCLA; another found out a month before starting (a free ride at) Tulane. And the other two found out over the summer, not sure exactly when but moved on to CAL and Northwestern.</p>
<p>And here’s the good news, those four kids are very, very happy with their schools. I guess they learned to fall in love, again.</p>
<p>To all Waitlisted students, I think it would help if you read the following thread:
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/washington-university-st-louis/865140-washus-not-hahvud-but-its-hotter-than-some-ivy-leagues.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/washington-university-st-louis/865140-washus-not-hahvud-but-its-hotter-than-some-ivy-leagues.html</a></p>
<p>face it: you were one of 22000+ applicants. You are not the only smart involved kid who applies to wash u. You are just like everyone else from a numerical point of view. A waitlist is the same as a reject only you still at least have dome chance.</p>
<p>For those people saying “over qualified” that is complete and utter BS. Wash u has higher gpas and test scores than most of similar colleges (yes even than your precious ivy league) and yet you still don’t get that wash u is NOT your small adorable Midwestern school that is a safety. It’s not. Get over it and move on. </p>
<p>While I have no information or real opinion on the vast Waitlist that wash u seems to have— I don’t get it would you have rather been rejected and stand NO chance of being accepted?or are you all upset because you are entitled, think you are somehow special, aren’t used to being said “no” to and actuall expect being accepted? </p>
<p>For every person with a top 5%rank and a 1550 SAT that was waitlisted I’ll give you another ten who were accepted. </p>
<p>Admissions aren’t formulaic. There’s 20000 other applying with your same stats and they can’t take everyone.</p>
<p>Yet no one cries or is furious because they weren’t accepted at an ivy league because they must be inherently selective and always make the right decisions.</p>
<p>Wash u’s yield is like 35%. It’s so low because they’re obviously accepting the same kids that the ivies are but the kids choose the ivies instead. All these arguments about wash u having a"complex" is utterly ignorant and makes no sense at all.</p>
<p>Remember admissions is one small part of your teenage life. Whatever admissions decision you get does not negate why you liked the school enough in the first place to apply and thought about going there</p>
<p>This may purely be my own speculation, but I still do think WashU waitlists most students who are on the higher end of the spectrum. One reason why they still may have high score averages is that they will much more readily accept applicants with high scores and the very best in the ED round, who will be bound. Then, for RD, they go for those most likely to matriculate. Logically, this way they used ED to pull up the scores portion and yield to keep good students, then fill in the remaining spots according to their need for RD. Makes sense, does it not? Or at least it does for me…</p>
<p>@tristan:
while i think the first part of your argument makes sense (being more generous to super high stats kids who apply Early), I don’t think the second part of your argument holds merit.</p>
<p>It’s well known that Wash U has about 1/3 of it’s students were Early Decision – or, at least, that’s what people say on campus and I remember an admissions staffer saying that when I applied. If 1/3 of students were Early Decision students, and Wash U’s yield is still only 35% or so… then their Regular Decision yield is lower than 30%.</p>
<p>These numbers show that is is UNLIKELY wash u plays the “yield game” to a significant extent. If they did play the “yield game” and only admitted students who were likely to attend and not go to HYPS, then:
- they would suck at doing this, because their yield for regular decision is still less than 30%
or - their Early Decision statistics would have to be basically 4.0 GPA and 2400 SAT for every ED person, because they still have uber-high averages for these things and all the Regular Decision students would need to have like 2000 SAT on average for it to even out for their true average (which is like 2200 I think). </p>
<p>I don’t think either of those two explanations are true. Therefore, there is no possible way that they play the “yield game” — or, at least, not to the great extent that people think they do.</p>
<p>The thing I am utterly confused about: for you all who are saying “i was too overqualified or they didn’t accept me because they think I’ll just go to Ivy League” — how on earth can they predict that? Ivy League admissions are just as unpredictable (if not more so) than Wash U’s… do you think they can predict which applicants applied elsewhere and who would be likely to go elsewhere? The argument doesn’t make sense! Stop making yourself feel better by blaming Wash U for your waitlist/rejection and not simply accepting that fact that you are just one of 20,000+ people who applied!! while you are special in your high school and special in your own right, it is extremely unlikely that you are that special in ANY highly selective school’s applicant pool. (clearly, there are some really special people in the applicant pool, but that’s not going to be 95% of the people who applied)</p>
<p>OK, just for kicks and to see what all these theories are about I went through the entire results thread to date (about 8 pages or so) and computed the average SAT I scores of the accepted/wailisted/rejected students. I didn’t include in my averages students who either reported only the ACT score or for whom the ACT score would have been more favorable (of which there were 12 admitted, 7 waitlisted, 1 rejected.)</p>
<p>So. SAT scores: 49 admitted, 25 waitlisted, 6 rejected. The average SAT for admitted students was 2260.8, the one for waitlisted students was 2249.20, and the one for rejected students was 2076. So if you look of the average SAT score of the admitted students vs. waitlisted students, you’ll notice that they’re virtually identical (fyi, there were three 2400 perfect scores among admitted students and two among waitlisted ones, once again almost even.) I believe this shows that SAT scores alone didn’t determine the outcome; it must have been the other components of the application, some objective, some largely subjective, that tipped the balance one way or another. One thing is clear: if WashU blindly waitlisted anyone deemed “Ivy material”, at the very least the students with perfect 2400s, if not the other numerous ones with scores above 2300 or in the high 2200s would not have been admitted. Which just doesn’t seem to be the case.</p>