<p>I apologize for the typo in my spelling of Johns Hopkins... but I didn't think that a simple typo would spawn so much hatred... when I post I usually dont take more than a couple minutes in doing so, and as a result I make typos cuz i dont go back over my posts before posting. I hope you could look past the spelling to help me out with my questions. Thanks</p>
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should I go ED Princeton or EA Harvard.. or what? (i'd like to get into one of these)</p>
<p>i'd also like to know what top schools or ivies you guyz think are best if I want to go into medicine....
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<p>Why are you so taken with Harvard and Princeton? I would suggest applying early to the school you most like for substantive reasons.</p>
<p>Have you considered Brown? </p>
<p>If you do apply to Princeton, you will need to take the SAT I. They say they only accept the ACT if every other school being applied to requires the ACT (which isn't ever going to happen in the real world, I suspect).</p>
<p>Actually in the past couple of weeks, I've decided to add Brown to my list. Plus I have never heard that about Princeton's testing policy. I got this off the website:</p>
<p>Does Princeton accept ACT (American College Testing) scores?</p>
<p>Yes. We will accept ACT results in place of SAT I scores only. All applicants must submit SAT II scores.</p>
<p>"2nd Place at an ISEF competition(dont know exactly what level or whatever) for determing if a correlation between Intelligence and Confidence exists, and the project's abstract was published in a book by Villanova during a symposium I attended"</p>
<p>Can you explain more about it? I can't find what you're talking about....is it here? <a href="http://www.sciserv.org/isef/results/grnd2005.asp%5B/url%5D">http://www.sciserv.org/isef/results/grnd2005.asp</a>
I don't see a "second place" or anything.</p>
<p>Well, here's what I saw on Princeton's web site:</p>
<p>"If all of your other college choices require ACT results and not the SAT, you may submit the ACT (old or new) to Princeton in place of the SAT Reasoning Test. As with the SAT, it is recommended that students take the new ACT with the writing option at least once. Three SAT Subject Tests are still required."</p>
<p>Where did you see what you saw? What I have quoted is for applying to be in the class entering in fall, 2006. It is conceivable that Princeton is loosening its policy. I would check with them if there is ambiguity. (We actually checked with all schools to make sure there wasn't an unexpressed preference, but no one had one. My daughter is at Brown and only took the ACT.)</p>
<p>Please report back. I tend to get into these "the SAT is required or preferred by many schools" arguments all the time. I like the ACT myself. People have only been able to point out Princeton, Wake Forest, and Randolph Macon as schools that indicate such a requirement or preference. The trend has been away from this, so it is conceivable that Princeton has finally seen the light!</p>
<p>Heh.. funny.. I never saw that page before. You could be right...
but well here's the page where I got my information...
Its the Frequently Asked Questions Page for Undergraduate Admissions. It doesn't allude to favorability of one test over another on this one page..
<a href="http://www.princeton.edu/pr/admissions/u/brief/5QandA.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.princeton.edu/pr/admissions/u/brief/5QandA.htm</a></p>
<p>It's under the question:
Does Princeton accept ACT (American College Testing) scores?</p>
<p>About the science fair project.. I won 2nd place at the Science and Engineering fair of Metro Detroit (SEFMD) <a href="http://www.sefmd.org/%5B/url%5D">http://www.sefmd.org/</a>, which I was told was part of the ISEF competition (you can see how little I really know about these fairs). I was later invited to compete for higher competitions but did not because of school and money.
Later, Villanova University published the abstracts of the projects that were invited to this national symposium they held.</p>
<p>I don't see anything mentioned about ISEF, except for this page: <a href="http://www.sefmd.org/Awards/ISEF%20Travel%20Info.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.sefmd.org/Awards/ISEF%20Travel%20Info.htm</a> . It seems as if you're trying to present yourself as a Finalist for ISEF, which would be unethical. Instead, stick to what you know, and say that you won second place at Science and Engineering Fair of Metro Detroit.</p>
<p>ryanberry07,</p>
<p>Well, that's wierd. Your page is dated August 2005 and mine is dated November 2005. I guess you need to send an email or make a call to the admissions department for clarification. I once saw some admission statistics for Princeton that only showed SAT scores, but I suppose they could have converted any ACT ones.</p>
<p>But then I have soft spots now for WUSTL and Brown, cuz that's where my two kids are at and they really like their schools.</p>
<p>Have you explored what campus life is like at the different schools you mention? From what I've read, there really is quite a bit of difference between, say, Johns Hopkins and Brown.</p>
<p>Are you interested in continuing football? Brown really did well this year in that :)</p>
<p>Lion Heart Top:
Thanks for the clarification I can be a lot more detailed now, because my counselor told me to put down ISEF cuz she said SEFMD was part of it. I dont know, I had no intention of exaggerating on my application but now I know what it is after you guys asked for better clarification.</p>
<p>Diane R:
Lol, no I'm all football'd out. I'm gonna email princeton and ask them, but no I don't have the luxury of being able to check out the school's atmosphere before actually going there (low on dough lol).</p>
<p>You could always go to the local bookstore and read through some of the "what these colleges are really like" books. People also discuss particular schools on CC.</p>
<p>At princetonreview you can see how students have graded schools on various criteria (politics, food, dorms, competitiveness, professors, you name it). Studentsreview lets students and alumni report on what they think of schools as well. Some think this isn't accurate; but for what my daughter used it for -- making a final decision between two schools -- it seemed to be consistent with what the books said and the personal impressions alumni had given us about both schools.</p>
<p>You can order videotaped campus tours from <a href="http://www.collegiatechoice.com%5B/url%5D">www.collegiatechoice.com</a>. We couldn't make it to every one of the schools on my son's list so he weeded through some of them that way. Before he made his final decision he made a physical visit to each school.</p>
<p>I would advise against applying anywhere ED you haven't visited.</p>
<p>Thanks I'll get right on it.
Thanks for all your help DianeR, I really appreciate it.</p>
<p>You are most welcome. Good luck!</p>