<p>Hello, I'm a junior from Indonesia, and currently doing relatively well in my education (IB). I got a 38 in my first term in IB, I'm the captain of the basketball team, vice-captain of the soccer team and I'm in the student council.</p>
<p>However, I'm really concerned about my future SAT scores. I did the PSATs with no preparation and minimal effort, I flunked horribly and got a 136. </p>
<p>I want to get into Princeton or Harvard, which seems like a dream if I don't get good SAT scores. I need to do SAT Subject Tests and currently thinking of doing World History and Mathematics Level II. </p>
<p>What would be the minimal to get into an Ivy League?
Are these subject tests a good choice if I wanna take Economics?</p>
<p>Average SAT in HARVARD is like
2380-2400
Every 3 that applied, only 1 got admitted</p>
<p>And they had a HECK a lot of awards, perfect GPA, AT LEAST 3 SAT2, and did SPORTS</p>
<p>Unless your legacy, I’m sorry but your chance is like…0?
for subject tests, you should do SAT Math2c no matter what. and 2? I heard biology and chemistry and ushistory is pretty easy compared to others.</p>
<p>BTW.
No offense but with your scores and the fact that your from outside USA
Your chance of going to Harvard or Princeton right now is (if your super lucky):
0%</p>
<p>Sorry to burst your bubble. But why not look at some other colleges.
OFC everyone has chance, I got my score to 1600/1600 when i first started at 1100/1600. It’s all about hard work but tbh, I highly doubt you can do it.
***Harvard and Princeton are NOT the only colleges in the world. Seriously, theres HUNDREDS of thousands of options out there.
Because with your current PSAT scores and the fact your junior, you have 0% chance of ANY top 50 schools. Heck, you should be looking near top 100 or outside rank which in reality is NOT worth the cost internationally.
Just look at colleges in Indonesia. Sorry bro but you got 0 hope. If you can publish a nobel prize winning research within this “junior” year, then things may be different.</p>
<p>Because, typical Harvard student that ISN’T legacy is: (has these features)
Captain of like 4-5 sports
Perfect SAT or next to perfect
Unmatched GPA
Won dozens of awards
At least AMC winner and AIME contestant. Some even USAMO
Created donation clubs in school
Went to Africa or somewhere else to help the poor
Plays like 3-4 instruments and performed at like Carnegie Hall
Wrote KILLER essays
Went to competitive high schools where (like mine) average SAT was well over 2000. (My school is 2186)
Had recommendation from a “high-ranked” source
Came out in local newspapers
At least 3 SAT2 that is well above 760 [Usual combo: USH, Math2c, Bio]
Took EVERY single AP/IB they could take (your IB score btw is decent. But still lacking -.-)
Hundreds of community service hours
Dozens of club president role</p>
<p>Can you do this all this year? If you can, try Harvard and Yale then. You will have like 3-5% acceptance rate if you have all these traits.</p>
<p>lol accCerate is a ■■■■■, there is no such thing as an Amc winner. There is a usamo winner though. You can’t make Usamo if your not a U.S. citizen or permanent resident. You don’t need 4-5 sports remember depth not breath . You probably only need 1 varsity sport for 4 years of high school. I seriously doubt you need to come out in local newspapers. Being dozens of club president roles might actually backfire, because it doesn’t show your committed to anything. You don’t need to play 3-4 instruments and go to Carnegie hall. You just have to be decent enough at 1 instrument ( I play piano for over a decade so this might me easy for me to say, but you don’t need that many.) You don’t need perfect or close to perfect , you just need 2300+. You don’t need to create club especially if the fields you are interested in are already made. I would modify the SAT2 comment to say you not need well above 760, you just need 760 or above.</p>
<p>Getting into an Ivy as an international student is NOT easy.</p>
<p>You should check into whether finances are a concern, if your parents or you can’t pay 100% first of all. The Ivy my son is targeting only considers ability to pay if the student is international.</p>
<p>Second, 136 is terrible, when you are targeting over 2200 for your SAT score. My kid got a 177 on his PSAT in sophomore year, and we all but gave up on Ivies except that he took an intensive SAT prep course which hopefully will help. Because he has sports and is a US citizen, he might be able to get away with 2000 SAT score but best chance is 2200 or more.</p>
<p>You need to re-assess why you did so poorly on the PSAT. Are you unfamiliar with standardized testing? Did you run out of time? Is your English vocabulary lacking (do you read a lot of books in English)? 136/3 = 45.3, translating to 453 on a SAT section. Ivies are looking for at least 700 in each section.</p>
<p>You could improve, but it seems like a lot needs to change and you have to be honest with yourself. An alternative path might be to attend a public university in the US, work real hard, and transfer to an Ivy, or go to an Ivy for graduate school.</p>
<p>You might also try to find some Ivy alums in your area you can talk to for advice.</p>
<p>(as for picking on AccCreate, SAT used to be out of 1600, and also many schools consider Math + CR scores much more than writing, especially if a student is targeting business or engineering)</p>
<p>@ wcao9311,
SAT was out of 1600 until several years ago when they added the writing section. Even now, many school still only consider the CR+M sections which has a maximum of 1600 too.</p>